Dear Sandra,

 

1 - Bartolomeu Vieira : there is a program default. The ancestot of Antônio
Ferreira Berbereia is Bartolomeo Vieira and his 1st wife, Francica de
Andrade de Avila. My wife ancestor is th same Bartolomeu Vieira and his 2nd
wife Inês de Aguiar.

2 - Domingos FERREIRA DE AGUIAR and Maria LUCAS :
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTE
GENEALOGICA/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOGICA_item1/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOG
ICA_JPG/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOGICA_0209.jpg

 

3 – João de Aguiar, father of João Ferreira de Aguiar married with Catarina
Fernandes. Refrence : Pe Luis Maldonado, Fenix Angrense - Parte genealogica,
p. 58..
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTE
GENEALOGICA/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOGICA_item1/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOG
ICA_JPG/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOGICA_0133.jpg

 

 4 - are Estevão AFONSO and Catarina RODRIGUES :
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTE
GENEALOGICA/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOGICA_item1/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOG
ICA_JPG/FENIXANGRENSE-PARTEGENEALOGICA_0335.jpg

The ascedants of Beatriz Afonso are in Espelho cristalino de Frei Diogo das
Chagas (not in line)

 

Abraço

 

Philippe

 

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De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de
Sandra Valine Dauer
Envoyé : lundi 5 octobre 2015 18:56
À : [email protected]
Objet : Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Biscoitos Terceira Berberea 1872 Marriage

 

Philippe and Doreen

Thank you for the list of 5 different married couples and the list of common
ancestors.

I located the above couple # 80 and #81 on your list and related them back
to Antonio Ferreira Berberia and Lourenca Justiniane. 

But the other 4 couples on Philipee listing and the same 4 couples plus
Bartolmeu Rodrigues Vieira M 1671 and Luzia Vieira Margues, I'm not seeing
the common ancestors on the list or in my records.

Please help me understand the connections.  Thank you  Sandra Valine Dauer 

 

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]>
wrote:

Philppe I'm amazed again for all your research and sharing of the Ahnentafel
Chart for my Great-Great Grandfather Antonio Ferreira Berberia.  The report
extends my lines more than I could do in my lifetime.

1.--Your #16, Pedro Enes Berbeira,  I have a death date of 24 Jan 1710,
Saint Beatris, Quatro Ribeiras. 

Source: Livro de Obitos, Quatro Ribeiras, l.#2: 1702-1976, F40V & f41.
(found by David E. Bertao)  For his wife, Maria Alves, I also have 11 Oct
1706.

2.--Your #32, Pedro Enes Berberea I have the death date as of 08 Jun 1678.

Source: Livro de Obitos, Quatro Ribeiras, L. #1: 1684-1702 (Fragmentos de
Livros) (found by David E Bertao)

I do not have death date for his wife Maria Lourenco.

3.--Your #12 Nicolao Borges Coelho and #13 Maria de Sao Joao,  12 Feb 1711
marriage.  I am unable to find this reference online Terceira Marriage
index.  Your appendex sources are very good; however #10 ph 128.  The index
list different name and date for 128.  Please clarify or help me find the
reference.  Thank you.  Thank you  Sandra Valine Dauer

 

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Doreen Caetano <[email protected]>
wrote:

Sandra, we have been looking for the connection between our families (as
indicated through Family Tree DNA) these are it. I too have Domingos de
Aguiar and Maria Lucas, Estavao Afonso de Avila and Catarina Rodrigues
Fagundes, Joao de Aguiar and unknown wife, Antao Ferreira de Aguiar and
Beatris Goncalves. I also have a Bartolomeu Rodrigues Vieira born in Santo
ANtonio married to a Luzia Vieira Marques married 1671.  Maybe it is the
same couple? Once you have charted the connection maybe we can utilize that
to help us determine our relationship. Doreen Caetano

 

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Philippe GARNIER
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Sandra,

 

Not with me, but with may wife :

1 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are
5th cousins 5 times removed.  Their common ancestor is Bartholomeo VIEIRA
and unknown

2 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are
6th cousins 4 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Domingos FERREIRA
DE AGUIAR and Maria LUCAS.

3 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are
9th cousins 4 times removed.  Their common ancestors are João DE AGUIAR and
Unknown.

4 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are
10th cousins 5 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Estevão AFONSO and
Catarina RODRIGUES FAGUNDES.

5 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA are
5th cousins 6 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Antão FERREIRA DE
AGUIAR and Beatris GONSALVES.

 

Abraço

 

Philippe

Le mardi 8 septembre 2015 02:10:51 UTC+2, Sandra Valine Dauer a écrit :

Need some help with word / sentences in this marriage of my
Great-Grandparents. Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer

11... Day of January 1872, Sao Pedro, Biscoitos, Villa da Praia da Vitoria,
Angra do Heroismo

Antonio Ferreira Berberea and Marianna do Coracao de Jesus......... he
21.... single, worker, native of this parish, legitimo of Antonio Ferreira
Berberea, of this parish,  and Laurenca
Justinianna..............................Priest Vila Praia de Vitoria
Joaquim da Silva Mattos, .......... She... native parish Sao Rogue, Altares,
Angra.  She (bride) age 17......single native and baptized parish Biscoitos,
daughter legitimo Manuel Soares de Sousa and Francisca Ignasia, natives of
this village.........not sure what next lines read......... husband/
wife....... Santa Marie?   Catholic Church ........

witnesses church officials  Manuel Cardoso Vieira, Angra and Joao Maria da
Silva

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-C-1870
-1879/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-C-1870-1879_item1/P19.html

 

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