hi rick

here's Joao Ignacio de Sousa's death 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html

does it say he died on march 12, 1807 or is there another date? does the record 
say what he died of?

here's the marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P168.html

marriage march 15, 1807






Carmen
   
                

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On Sat, 11/19/16, Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 To: [email protected]
 Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
 When did Joao Ignacio de
 Souza die?  If Umbelina Jacinta remarried to Francisco da
 Costa on 12 Mar 1807 and a son was born 17 Nov 1807 that is
 only 8 months. It seems strange that she would remarry right
 away I think the father of the son is Francisco da Costa and
 they just jumped the gun getting a family started. Joao
 Ignacio de Sousa died much earlier to be the father. As far
 as the name it could have been just one of those Portuguese
 naming things.
 
 Rick
 
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Epping, NH
 
 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada
 Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel,
 Acores
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy [mailto:[email protected]]
 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:11 AM
 To: [email protected]
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS
 ON THIS !!!
 
 my ancestor
 Thereza de Jesús was the daughter of João Ignácio da
 Rocha and Francisca de Jesús
 
 for months i have been trying to find her
 grandparents
 
 no info on
 Thereza de Jesús and her siblings baptisms nor on her and
 her parents obituaries
 
 with
 many thanks to cheri i was able to find her parents'
 marriage - left side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P178.html
 
 and with many thanks to joe
 matias i was able to find more info about João Ignácio da
 Rocha and Francisca de Jesús' parents
 
 João Ignácio da Rocha -
 parents -  Francisco da Costa and Umbelina Jacinta
 
 Francisca de Jesús - parents
 - Pedro Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de Jesús
 
 Francisco da Costa was married
 to Izabel de Jesús - after she died in 1805 he married 
 Umbelina Jacinta on march 14, 1807 - right side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P168.html
 
 Umbelina Jacinta was married
 to João Ignácio da Souza - after he died on march 12, 1807
 she married Francisco da Costa - bottom right side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html
 
 their son João Ignácio da
 Rocha was born november 17, 1807 - top right side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_item1/P185.html
 
 i hope i have these dates
 correct
 
 it seems strange to
 me that umbelina would name João after her first husband
 
 on all of João Ignácio da
 Rocha's children's baptisms his name was listed as
 João Ignácio or João Ignácio da Rocha - no mention of da
 Costa
 
 Umbelina
 Jacinta's parents were Amaro da Rocha + Josefa Marianna
 - still have to find her parents marriage
 
 so my dilemma is - is João
 Ignácio da Rocha's father João Ignácio da Souza or
 Francisco da Costa?
 
 what do
 you think?
 
 thank you
 
 Carmen
 
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