There's a Maria born and died in 1892, a Manuel born and died in 1889, a Maria born in 1887, and a Manuel born in 1884 and died in 1887. Joao and Francisca married in 1882, so there could be one more baby (or not) between 1882 & 1884. There could be babies before marriage too (I don't think I checked). I don't know who was born after Virginia b 1893.
Once you have the whole family complete, the Azorean passaportes will make more sense. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Elaine Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > So far, I've only found 2 - Maria (1890) and Virginia (1893). > > So I'll take that Joao as being the wrong one. I haven't been able to > find out anything about Virginia other than what is on the baptism record. > > Elaine > > On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 1:35:49 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Correction: Two lived to adulthood. Not sure about the 3rd. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Elaine, >>> Funchal is Madeira island. Your people are from Ribeira Quente on Sao >>> Miguel island, one of the 9 Azores Islands. The Madeira Islands (2 of them) >>> are a different archipelago. >>> >>> I have no idea what Shirley is talking about. What do you have for the >>> kids of Joao Ignacio de Lima and Francisca Rosa de Mello from Ribeira >>> Quente? I have 6 kids, with 3 living to adulthood. I haven't run across a >>> Joao. >>> Cheri >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Elaine Mello <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> hi Margaret, >>>> >>>> I found on ancestry a NY immigration: >>>> >>>> New York Passenger List, 1820-1957 >>>> Year: 1907: Arrival, New York, New York; Microfilm >>>> Serial: T715, 1897-1959; Micriofilm roll: roll 0885; >>>> Line 24; Page Number: 85 >>>> >>>> Looking at the record again, I realize it has a different birth city >>>> - Funchal, so while the age is right, this may not be him. But if you look >>>> up the page, Joao is line 28 that was the name I saw and jumped to the >>>> conclusion it was him. >>>> >>>> Its interesting to know that they would name their kids the same name - >>>> I guess George Foreman wasn't the first to do that, then! ;} >>>> >>>> Shirley, I do find the 14 year old Joao confusing, as there is a >>>> Virginia that was born in 1893 to Joao and Francisca, so unless there was a >>>> multiple birth or they adopted a child, he doesn't make sense. But >>>> everything else matches up in terms of ages and names/parentage. >>>> >>>> Elaine >>>> Elaine >>>> >>>> On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 7:37:45 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, and yes, it was. Some times up to 4 and 5 Marias >>>>> >>>>> If you look at the 17 year old Maria, record # 52 year 1890, on the >>>>> top right page, 6th line down, it reads...."secunda de nome", second of >>>>> the >>>>> name. This confirms she is the 2nd Maria of this family thus far. >>>>> >>>>> Elaine, You mentioned Maria's Dad arrived in the USA same year, May >>>>> 6th? What documentation do you have to prove this? Francisca's passport # >>>>> 675 states she is 52 years and a widow. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

