Good to know. Thank you João (the Tombo guy and NOT the guy who lives on
Terceira).

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, João Ventura <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey, João Ventura here,
>
> Ok, so some elements:
>
> * archive.org: this is the Internet Archive, a non-profit from San
> Francisco, SA, mostly known for the Wayback machine.
> * arquivo.pt: this is the Portuguese Internet Archive, run by the
> government entity that coordinates the Internet used by the Portuguese
> universities.
>
> What you have found seems to be the collection created by arquivo.pt that
> is somehow stored in archive.org (possibly some collaboration). Those
> files in that URL are the complete snapshots of the Portuguese Internet at
> discrete points in time.
>
> If you want to use arquivo.pt, you can use it the same way as the wayback
> machine: you type in a URL in arquivo.pt. For example, this is how
> tombo.pt looked back in 2014: http://arquivo.pt/
> wayback/20140929124349/http://tombo.pt/
>
> Oddly enough, for some reason the Wayback machine has more points for
> tombo.pt than arquivo.pt. I guess the frequency of snapshots by arquivo.pt
> is smaller.
>
> João Ventura
> https://tombo.pt/en
>
> On Thursday, 12 October 2017 01:31:38 UTC+2, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the correction Cheri.  The site mentions "archivists".
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Margaret!
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> [email protected]
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rosemarie, it is back end like Cheri said but it must serve a purpose
>>> that an archivist like Joao may answer.  I think it is directed at
>>> Archivists not for folks like us.  In any case if you can translate the
>>> attached link it may give you a little more.
>>>
>>> http://sobre.arquivo.pt/pt/ajuda/o-que-e-o-arquivo-pt/#qe-faq-2084
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for checking, Margaret. I really didn't get what it was about
>>>> but Tombo Joao would know, I'm sure! It just caught my eye when I was
>>>> perusing the other connections on the site.
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Margaret Vicente <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's right. I'll let Joao explain how it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>  If you click on the files it will tell you what to do.  Here's one I
>>>>> clicked on for music.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://ia902701.us.archive.org/11/items/borboletta2014-12-
>>>>> 11.bsc2.sbd.flac24/borboletta2014-12-11set1t02.flac
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand it, but to me, I don't think it means records.
>>>>>> Most of the Internet Archive (and the Wayback Machine) is a web crawler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Margaret Vicente <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, Joao may explain it better but what I'm looking at is a web
>>>>>>> crawler that checks for file changes on targeted web content.  When the
>>>>>>> crawler finds changes it captures the incremental changes creating a 
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> that is download-able but not view-able. It is used by search engines to
>>>>>>> keep abreast with internet info changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You mean this?
>>>>>>>> https://archive.org/details/portuguese-web-archive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the Internet Archive that houses the Wayback Machine. What
>>>>>>>> I'm reading on the https://archive.org/details/po
>>>>>>>> rtuguese-web-archive URL is technical gobbly-gook. Maybe João of
>>>>>>>> Tombo.pt can explain more. Sounds like it's right up his technical
>>>>>>>> alley!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I took the link to just Archive.org and there are Portuguese
>>>>>>>>> websites listed! Under Archivo.pt there are links. I couldn't get
>>>>>>>>> them to open for some reason and I imagine that they are all in 
>>>>>>>>> Portuguese
>>>>>>>>> but they are there! Maybe someone who reads Portuguese would take a 
>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>> and let us know what it's about?? Could be another resource for us 
>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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