I’m not sure this information will help but my grandfather, who was Jose Caetano do Canto (my grandfather) aka Joe M Caetano in the USA, had a sister named Maria da Conceicao, aka Mary Constance Caetano. She married her first cousin Matheus Labandeira, son of Maria Eugenia (Caetano do Canto) and Antonio Labandeira. Mary’s family is in the Merced area. Now Jose Caetano do Canto and Maria Conceicao were the children of Jose Caetano do Canto and Maria Amelia Machado de Castro originally from Ribeirinha but settled in the Hanford/Fresno area. This Jose (my Paternal Great Grandfather) had a sister named Maria Eugenia who married Antonio Labandeira and she is the one mentioned above. Now Maria da Conceicao and Matheus Labandeira daughter Palmeira married Frank Cardoza Sequeira. This is the connection between my Caetano family and the Sequeira family name. Once again I do not know if this is your family. There are no Manuels in this family Until you get back to my Great Grandfather’s brother’s family. He had a son named Manuel. These people are on my paternal side. Now I have a Rose Caetano in my database, who’s second marriage was to my Maternal Great Grandfather Manuel Coelho da Silva of Kingsburg. She had been married before to a man with the last named Brazil. She was originally from the Gustine area and after the death of my Great Grandfather’s she went back to that area to live with her brother Manuel Caetano. They were the children of Manuel Caetano and Emilia Silva. I do not have any other information on this family. My Great Grandfather Manuel Coelho da Silva, aka Manuel C. Silva and Rose did not have any children.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 6:27 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Garcia, Alvernaz, Caetano, Sequeira, inSanta Clara and San Jose Co, California, no dates Consorte is a synonym for a spouse, you could say. The explanation for the layout is above the links. In case you overlooked it: The records are set up in this way: All these records are for the membership, which is for men only. Each page of the record book has two images. The first image is a listing of the men that can include their name, membership number, age, date of admittance, marital status, occupation, current residence, and where they were from. The following image (page) is the second part of the record and that lists the beneficiary. Usually that is the wife, but can be mother or father or even children. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> wrote: Gordon-- Someplace I think there is an explanation about the layout of pages. In this case I think when the book was laid out open the men's names were on the left page and beneficiaries on the right page. But they were captured in two photos, so you have to make sure you are reading the corresponding lines. I also noticed the term "consorte" and may have even asked about it but (hanging head in shame) now don't remember exactly the difference from esposa. A civil marriage perhaps? It is really interesting going though the different councils, even when you don't think they apply to your family. I was looking for someone else in Los Banos and found an entry for someone who is listed as a boarder on the U.S. Census with one of my relatives in another county because that's where their beneficiary lived. Mary Bordi On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:08 PM Gordon soares <[email protected]> wrote: Mary: Thanks so much for the UPEC address. Can you tell me a few things about the lists? I take it that one list contains the names of the men enrolled and the second list the names of the women who are to receive some kind of benefit after husbands death? Also, when looking at the wive’s list I see “consort” under “porques Direito” ? Is Consort another name for married (Casado)? Thanks Gordon On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Mary Bordi <[email protected]> wrote: I happened to run into a Manuel Silva Sequeira in Mission San Jose in the UPEC records when I was looking for someone else. It says he was from Sao Jorge. His wife was Maria. I don't know if this is the same one but I thought I'd share. If anyone is interested go here and download the Mission San Jose PDF: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html I'm not putting the direct link because it's 44 pages and took a long time to load for me.. Manuel appears for the first time on page 3. It caught my eye because of my Sequeira ancestors but I'm not sure there's a connection. Mary On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 8:54 PM Rose Zbyzenski <[email protected]> wrote: Manuel Sequiera was the man who fostered my Great Grandmother Harvey {Alvernas, Caton} in the early 1900s. he lived in Mission San Jose. i have not researched him because he was not a blood relative. i can also tell you he was on the original charter of the I.D.E.S., Irmandade do Divino Espirito Santo, and signed the permission slip for my Great grandmother so she could be married, in January 1904. Hope this helps. On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:09 PM, bigal429 via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: I noticed Sequeira in your genealogy. Where is your Sequeira from? Sent from my iPad On Mar 6, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Rose Zbyzenski <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you for your help.Not sure what I am doing , yet I will give it a try. On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 2:54:29 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for rose.zbyzenski at gmail.com NOTE: Rose Z: Posts are closed after 30 days. You are responding to postings from 5 years ago. It's best just to start a new thread/post after 30 days. Since you sent so many messages in a piecemeal style, in a short amount of time, the system thinks you are a spammer. So I just copied and pasted them together which makes no sense. I suggest you save [email protected] in your address book. Then start a new email. Address it to [email protected]. In the subject line, I'd list the ancestors last name(s), state or Azores island where they lived, and a year or span. Then in the body I'd go into more detail. Maybe someone will remember these posts from 5 years ago. We have list members who have passed on as well, so you may be answering someone who is not on the list anymore. Rose Z's posts: been 5 years away from site. Just read your post, yes, Warm Springs was a district of Washington township. I believe Milpitas was considered Santa Clara County. Susan, I have been away from this site for a about 5 yrs. Yes, most of this is familiar to me, I am connected to most of what you have written. Been away fro this site for 5years. Thank you, for your info. Yes, my grandmother's name is Helen Evelyn {Alvernas, spelling?} Harvey Garcia. It appears that somewhere around the early 1900s name changed from Alvernas to Harvey. I really appreciate your help[. Lynn, just started researching again after 5 years. Many changes in my life. Yes, i think the Manuel Caton the 3rd name could be by Great grandma's grandfather, because of the dates. He seems to have a son named Manuel. I think this is her father, Manuel, eventually living around Ashland. And he and his wife passing from possibly TB within weeks of each other. then the children were given out to relatives or friends. My great grandma landed in Mission San Jose. And married a few years later to another Manuel. Alvernaz, changing name to Harvey. Also, I believe the man who fostered her was Manuel Sequiera of Mission. thank you so much for your help. Elaine, This is Rose Zbyzenski. I have not been on this site for about 5 years.Very shortly after I wrote the first post I was contacted by my cousin who lived near my parents, and alerted me to a problem with my parents. My mother past, shortly ,thereafter, I took on all of their affairs, including my Dad who was in dementia. Then my oldest son passed, along with other passings. My ex husband past last year. So after , all these events and being the executor to their wills.I am trying yo find my way back to myself. I hop this explains why I did not contact any of you. I so appreciate all the help. I am not that literate in electronics , either, so, it has been an interesting journey. I could not even locate this site, again, until, today. I have found a lot about the Garcia , Andrade side, and now trying to find out about Caton again. God bless all of you for so much help. and please forgive me for the lack of response. Blessings and Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/pLQmt1jh9jI/unsubscribe. 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