Thank you!

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:38 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

> Joe Mendonca, I did not know that the Ponta Delgada archives would scan
> for you. Good to know.
>
> Joe Matias, the Archeevo site is the Archives Catalog. Any type of card
> catalog doesn't provide detailed information. Catalogs, by nature, are just
> a type of index. Maybe you missed my post on the Archives Catalog. Here it
> is for your reference:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/azores/NVx8qfbhNZM
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Joe Matias <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ok,good to know.I have been on the archeevo site but did not get detailed
>> info,but still very useful.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:39 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Altino,
>>> That link does not have the inventories or wills and it does not contain
>>> the images of them. They were very explicit about NOT putting the
>>> inventories/wills online. They stated to me that the inventories/wills are
>>> for viewing only, as they are very private. Too bad they can't make a cut
>>> off date. Someone who died in the mid-1800s and had descendants won't
>>> really be invading their privacy, as all the descendants are also deceased.
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:31 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe, you can research from home here :
>>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> You can also research on the Tombo website. Maybe someone else can
>>>> provide that link.
>>>>
>>>> Altino
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Joe Matias <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to be in Ponta Delgada in order to view all the pages of
>>>> your search,or is there a way of doing so through the internet at home?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive
>>>>> use of the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives
>>>>> Catalog at http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/  I don't know how to
>>>>> find them for other islands. I don't think the other archives entered them
>>>>> or perhaps the inventories or wills are not housed at the other archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time
>>>>> period. The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized and
>>>>> followed a format.
>>>>>
>>>>> They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in
>>>>> charge of their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so 
>>>>> potentially
>>>>> 14 pages of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of
>>>>> information). The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the
>>>>> death certificate with the cause of death listed. Or the best that 
>>>>> medicine
>>>>> knew for that time period. They named children, grandchildren,
>>>>> great-grandchildren if they had any. If you can read the births and
>>>>> marriages, then you already know the words of "filhos" and "netos."
>>>>> "Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some listed relatives on the
>>>>> paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal side "pelo lada 
>>>>> materna,"
>>>>> Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the page. Some listed what I
>>>>> believe were people they owed. Some listed what they owned, as in the
>>>>> furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had a declaration from
>>>>> her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting on my cousin to
>>>>> tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too.
>>>>>
>>>>> The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some exist
>>>>> from the 1700s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not every ancestor will have an inventory or will. You didn't need to
>>>>> own property to have an will or inventory. As I said, it appeared that one
>>>>> guy owed a lot of people a lot of money.
>>>>>
>>>>> They allowed me to take pictures with my camera (found out I need a
>>>>> different pair of reading glasses to take pictures). They said that the
>>>>> inventories are NEVER to be posted anywhere on the Internet. That means
>>>>> Ancestry.com, Geni.com, My Heritage, FamilySearch.org, your own
>>>>> personal page, etc. They consider the inventories private Yes, I 
>>>>> understand
>>>>> that if the person died in 1807, no one alive today was mentioned in that
>>>>> will. But they have their rules. I said it was going to be left on my
>>>>> computer so I could consult it. I would extract only genealogy information
>>>>> from the documents, but would never post an image of any them. So for 
>>>>> those
>>>>> utilizing the inventories/wills, do NOT post them ANYWHERE on the Internet
>>>>> or you mess it up for future genealogists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully the other archives will get their inventories/wills up on
>>>>> the Archives Catalog.
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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