Good to know that there's some content there. The librarian made it sound like a catalog only - like an index. She said if I wanted information, to use the CCA. I guess because I was doing genealogy she thought perhaps I wasn't interested in other content. Cheri
Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Hana Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you for sharing the links. There are also ebooks and journals that > are interesting to read in Google Books and Internet Archives. I came > across a Volumes 4, 8, and 12 of Arquivos Açorianos in Google Books. They > are interesting and help me to understand the place and lives of my > ancestors. Even if one doesn’t read Portuguese, with a dictionary and Bing > translator one can slowly figure it out. Here is the link to Volume 8 of > Arquivos Açorianos: > > https://books.google.com/books?id=yIkDAAAAYAAJ&pg= > PA494&dq=arquivos+açorianos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW0- > 22mrjcAhUTNX0KHVsxCmgQ6AEIMjAC#v=onepage&q=arquivos%20açorianos&f=false > <https://books.google.com/books?id=yIkDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA494&dq=arquivos+a%C3%A7orianos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW0-22mrjcAhUTNX0KHVsxCmgQ6AEIMjAC#v=onepage&q=arquivos%20a%C3%A7orianos&f=false> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:41 AM Joe Matias <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you! >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:38 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Joe Mendonca, I did not know that the Ponta Delgada archives would scan >>> for you. Good to know. >>> >>> Joe Matias, the Archeevo site is the Archives Catalog. Any type of card >>> catalog doesn't provide detailed information. Catalogs, by nature, are just >>> a type of index. Maybe you missed my post on the Archives Catalog. Here it >>> is for your reference: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/azores/ >>> NVx8qfbhNZM >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Joe Matias <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok,good to know.I have been on the archeevo site but did not get >>>> detailed info,but still very useful. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:39 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Altino, >>>>> That link does not have the inventories or wills and it does not >>>>> contain the images of them. They were very explicit about NOT putting the >>>>> inventories/wills online. They stated to me that the inventories/wills are >>>>> for viewing only, as they are very private. Too bad they can't make a cut >>>>> off date. Someone who died in the mid-1800s and had descendants won't >>>>> really be invading their privacy, as all the descendants are also >>>>> deceased. >>>>> <sigh> >>>>> >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:31 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Joe, you can research from home here : >>>>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> You can also research on the Tombo website. Maybe someone else can >>>>>> provide that link. >>>>>> >>>>>> Altino >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Joe Matias <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have to be in Ponta Delgada in order to view all the pages of >>>>>> your search,or is there a way of doing so through the internet at home? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive >>>>>>> use of the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives >>>>>>> Catalog at http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/ I don't know how to >>>>>>> find them for other islands. I don't think the other archives entered >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> or perhaps the inventories or wills are not housed at the other >>>>>>> archives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time >>>>>>> period. The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> followed a format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in >>>>>>> charge of their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so >>>>>>> potentially >>>>>>> 14 pages of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of >>>>>>> information). The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the >>>>>>> death certificate with the cause of death listed. Or the best that >>>>>>> medicine >>>>>>> knew for that time period. They named children, grandchildren, >>>>>>> great-grandchildren if they had any. If you can read the births and >>>>>>> marriages, then you already know the words of "filhos" and "netos." >>>>>>> "Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some listed relatives on the >>>>>>> paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal side "pelo lada >>>>>>> materna," >>>>>>> Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the page. Some listed what I >>>>>>> believe were people they owed. Some listed what they owned, as in the >>>>>>> furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had a declaration from >>>>>>> her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting on my cousin to >>>>>>> tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some >>>>>>> exist from the 1700s. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not every ancestor will have an inventory or will. You didn't need >>>>>>> to own property to have an will or inventory. As I said, it appeared >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> one guy owed a lot of people a lot of money. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They allowed me to take pictures with my camera (found out I need a >>>>>>> different pair of reading glasses to take pictures). They said that the >>>>>>> inventories are NEVER to be posted anywhere on the Internet. That means >>>>>>> Ancestry.com, Geni.com, My Heritage, FamilySearch.org, your own >>>>>>> personal page, etc. They consider the inventories private Yes, I >>>>>>> understand >>>>>>> that if the person died in 1807, no one alive today was mentioned in >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> will. But they have their rules. I said it was going to be left on my >>>>>>> computer so I could consult it. I would extract only genealogy >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> from the documents, but would never post an image of any them. So for >>>>>>> those >>>>>>> utilizing the inventories/wills, do NOT post them ANYWHERE on the >>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>> or you mess it up for future genealogists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hopefully the other archives will get their inventories/wills up on >>>>>>> the Archives Catalog. >>>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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