Estrela is the Matriz.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:00 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

> Which one is the Matriz? Conceicao or Estrella? More expostos are at the
> Matriz.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:02 PM Joseph Mendonca <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Richard.  The ‘Jose da Costa Canejo & Maria da Conceição’ that
>> I have found *are in different generations*.  I haven’t found their
>> marriage records, but they are named in the baptismal records of their
>> children and grandchildren.
>>
>> Here are the records which mention them:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. LEFT PAGE, Maria.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1860-1864/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1860-1864_item1/P334.html
>>
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>> 2.RIGHT-TOP, Jacinto.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1828-1831/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1828-1831_item1/P21.html
>>
>>
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>> 3. RIGHT-BOTTOM, Anna.
>>
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>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1796-1801/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1796-1801_item1/P7.html
>>
>>
>>
>> It is possible that the ‘Jose da Costa Canejo & Maria da Conceição’
>> mentioned in records #2 and #3 may be the same couple and I’ve yet to rule
>> that in or out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Margaret.  I had found that marriage record and it indicates
>> that the bride “Escolastica” was an exposta and baptized in Conceicao,
>> Ribeira Grande.  I found her husband’s baptismal (b. 28 May 1828) record
>> which is #2 above and the one that started this thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am interested in anyone’s opinion regarding ‘Escolastica’ regarding the
>> following information I’ve found thus far.  I searched for Escolastica’s
>> baptismal record in Conceicao from 1821 to 1837 and only found one child
>> with that name baptized on 2 Nov 1837.  And that child was an ‘exposta’.
>> If this is her than it makes her 15 years and 7 months old at the time of
>> the marriage to Jacinto.
>>
>> Now, my question is: should I continue to look back further to rule out
>> the possibility of another considerably older ‘Escolastica’ who also
>> happened to be exposta AND should I continue to look further forward for
>> another considerably younger ‘Escolastica’ who also happened to be
>> exposta.  I have seen it, but how much younger could she be?  My gut
>> feeling is that this is her, but should I be a little more thorough?
>>
>> Here is the record:
>>
>> LEFT-TOP, Escolastica.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-B-1834-1842/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-B-1834-1842_item1/P101.html
>>
>>
>>
>> That’s not all!
>>
>> I have found at least 6 children belonging to Jacinto & Escolastica from
>> 1856 to 1873.  The first 5 children’s baptismal records indicate their
>> maternal grandparents as ‘incognito’ due to the mother being ‘exposta’.
>> However, their 6th child born in 1873 names the maternal grandparents as
>> Elias do Rego & Maria Jacinta. I wonder if they married at some point and
>> should I look for a marriage record? But when and where? Here’s the link to
>> that record:
>>
>>
>>
>> RIGHT-BOTTOM, Maria- continued on the next page.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1870-1874/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1870-1874_item1/P320.html
>>
>> The name of the father and paternal grandparents are the same as in the
>> records of the other children.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I apologize for this long reply.  I try to keep them short and to the
>> point.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:01 PM Margaret Vicente <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Joseph, if you're looking for the marriage record for the Jacinto of
>>> this birth record, you will find it here, left side.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1853-1860/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1853-1860_item1/P12.html
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 8:19 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *This is the only Jacinto da Costa and Maria I have in my data from
>>>> Estrela. The marriages I have cover the years 1771 to Jun 1839.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P47.html
>>>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P47.html>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Rick*
>>>>
>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>
>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 4:33 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel-Baptism
>>>> record help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is going to be difficult, Joseph. You will need to follow all the
>>>> children of each couple and try to see if they start using an alcunha to
>>>> tell them apart!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>
>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM Joseph Mendonca <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Rosemarie.  I agree on the "da Conceicao".  I have so
>>>> far found two other married couples in Ribeira Grande with the same names
>>>> of Jacinto da Costa Canejo and Maria da Conceicao.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:39 PM Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joseph, I believe it's Conceicao. Look at the capital "C" on Cura
>>>> before the Priest's name at the bottom,looks the same. Although I believe
>>>> it should be da Conceicao and it looks like de Conceicao.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>
>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:21 PM Joseph Mendonca <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Left-top record-5th line down.  I need a 2nd set of eyes on the
>>>> paternal grandmother's name.  I believe it to be Maria da CONCEICAO.  I see
>>>> a cedilla under what I believe to be a "ç".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1828-1831/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1828-1831_item1/P21.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
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