Paul M, OK maybe I missed it. Sorry about that. Good you have the names. You still need dates and places. As you know, genealogy needs name, date, and place and the archives and vital records departments worldwide function this way.
The way I see it, you have 3 choices: 1) You could go though all 70 or so churches on Sao Miguel looking for a marriage of Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna Lucianna. 2) You could keep periodically posting here hoping to make a connection. 3) You could test your DNA and make connections that way (FTDNA's sale will start up in 5 or 6 weeks or so). Well, I guess you could also pay a researcher to spend hours looking for you, but then you don't get the satisfaction of finding it yourself. Good luck, Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM pjm47 <pj...@comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry but i was sure that i said Anna Cabral was the daughter of Antonio > Cabral Silva and Anna Lucianna. On her death certificate it say she is Anna > Cabral daughter of Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna Lucianna of Sao Miguel > same thing on her marriage info from the church > > On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 7:20:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> It depends. >> Deaths from about 1910-1915 to the present are at the various Civil >> Registries. You need to know the name of Anna's parents (which you never >> stated, so I assume you don't know), their date of death and which >> freguesia they died in. If you don't have that information, then they >> cannot do a look up. There's no SSDI or California - like Death Index >> there. They do not do searches. You give the specific person and the >> specific date and they look them up in a specific freguesia. >> >> If the death is from before 1910-1915, the records are at the Archives. >> Pretty much the same thing - you need their names, date of death, and >> location for them to look it up. They don't do searches. >> >> You never answered the question about having the actual marriage book >> image or record. Not the half page certificate. That could be one huge clue. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:14 PM pjm47 <pj...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks,for your input Cheri. If her mother and father died in the in >>> the Azores in the 1900s would there be records that i can access and if yes >>> where in the Azores. I am sure they remained there so their obits would be >>> there. Anna is listed as being 18 years old in 1895 so her parents could be >>> as young as 40 and there must be a record of their death there in the >>> 1900s. Your thoughts. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 3:40:20 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>> >>>> Paul M said: >>>> << i have the marriage certificate from the church>> >>>> >>>> You mean that half-page thing that says he married her by the priest >>>> and the witnesses were? That's just a summary of what was in the book. It's >>>> near the time period that they asked for the island, but they don't put >>>> that on that little half page certificate. If you are in MA, go to Santo >>>> Cristo in Fall River and ask to see the book. Take a picture with your >>>> camera. Give them a donation too so they keep allowing other genealogists >>>> access. >>>> >>>> If the island or freguesia isn't stated, you'll need to turn to DNA and >>>> you'll need to test multiple people from your KNOWN lines. Once you have >>>> them figured out, what remains will be your Anna's line and it may become >>>> much easier to figure out. She's not in the right time period to be Anna >>>> Cabral. She left and probably came to America as Anna de Jesus, Anna do >>>> Espirito Santo, Anna Some-Religious-Name. And there's lots of them. You >>>> seem to focus only on Sao Miguel island however you don't have any evidence >>>> that she was from there. She may be from Flores and met her husband in Fall >>>> River working in the textile mills. DNA would clearly state that she was >>>> not Sao Miguel island because the researchers you are matching would be >>>> working in other localities besides Sao Miguel. >>>> >>>> There remains the needle-in-the-haystack method. You could search all >>>> 150 or so freguesias of the Azores looking for an Anna born in 1879 >>>> (hopefully that's right, sometimes they are off a year or two) to someone >>>> who has a Cabral in their ancestry. For me, that's a daunting task. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:30 PM pjm47 <pj...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have done passports both leaving the Azores and coming to the USA >>>>> could never find anything . The key thing with the passports on leaving >>>>> from the Azores is that some years there are missing 1895 and sooner i >>>>> believe they came around around 1895 and locating here in Fall River Ma >>>>> They married here in August of1895 at Santo Christo church She is listed >>>>> as >>>>> being 18 years old i have the marriage certificate from the church and all >>>>> the records say that she was from the Azores.I have the application for >>>>> the >>>>> marriage From Fall River city clerk and again only shows Azores. She >>>>> came >>>>> here as Anna Cabral around 1895 and gave birth in 1896 and was married to >>>>> Jose da Silva Margarida >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all your help i am so close but yet so far away in finding >>>>> her birth >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 4:34:29 PM UTC-4, "E" Sharp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul, >>>>>> >>>>>> I forgot, how about passportes? >>>>>> >>>>>> "E" >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:33 PM "E" Sharp <belle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Was she married here in the U.S.? Do you have their marriage >>>>>>> record? If in Fall River or New Bedford, ask them nicely for the form >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> filled out to obtain the marriage license also. However, it is possible >>>>>>> that it might be incorrect as my grandmother's was; it was very helpful >>>>>>> with other info. Have you found the ship's manifest for her and her >>>>>>> parents? It might be on there. I no longer have Ancestry so I cannot >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> you there. Might try familysearch.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "E" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:53 AM Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who is the ancestor you are searching for? Anna Cabral from Sao >>>>>>>> Miguel? What documents and research have you done on her so far? >>>>>>>> There's a >>>>>>>> whole "how to" on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar >>>>>>>> Which ones have you tried? >>>>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:36 AM pjm47 <pj...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been researching my family for over 15 years and have done >>>>>>>>> quite well. I have found all the records on my fathers side and my >>>>>>>>> mother's >>>>>>>>> fathers side in St Michaels and have had them all translated with no >>>>>>>>> problems dating back to the 1700s in some cases. The only problem is >>>>>>>>> i >>>>>>>>> have had no luck in finding my mothers mother ( my grandmother ) My >>>>>>>>> grand >>>>>>>>> father came here to Fall River Ma USA and married Anna Cabral . She >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> the daughter of Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna Lucianna of St >>>>>>>>> Michaels.. All >>>>>>>>> the records that i have found on her say she was born in St. Michael >>>>>>>>> Azores. My grand father was from Lagoa and from the Parochial church >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> Rosary diocese of Angra. On her death certificate here in the usa it >>>>>>>>> says >>>>>>>>> she was born in 1879. I have no one to ask because they have all >>>>>>>>> passed >>>>>>>>> away. My mother never knew her mother for she was three when her >>>>>>>>> mother >>>>>>>>> died i was hoping to find some records on her before my mother passed >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> that will never be.I looked all over Lagoa but came up with nothing. >>>>>>>>> Any >>>>>>>>> help or ideas where to search ?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul J Mello >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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