Horace,

I believe the online web site asks you for your Portuguese I.D. card. I'm
not sure how you'd get one when you reside in the U.S. You may need to hire
Joao Ventura to obtain it for you. He lives in the Azores, so he'd have the
correct identification. I suggest you email him with your ancestor's full
name, complete date of birth, who the parents are, and the freguesia of
Capelas on Sao Miguel island. Joao is bilingual, so you can write him in
whatever language you prefer. His direct email is heroi99 at yahoo.com

Good luck,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM Horace Melo <[email protected]> wrote:

> No Portuguese I.D. card for me!  Born in the states. Am I still eligible
> for one?
>
> I know I can get the exact date from my father. Manuel came with his wife
> Maria Benevedes.
>
> Best,
> Horace
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 8:07 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hi Horace,
>>
>> Do you have the exact birth date of your Manuel b. 1931 and died 15 Sept
>> 2013? The trick to working with the Civil Registry is having the EXACT date.
>>
>> If your Manuel came to Fall River with HIS mother (your grandmother), you
>> should trace HER. If your Manuel was born in 1931, his mom may have been
>> born in 1911 or maybe earlier. You will then be able to use the records
>> online!
>>
>> If you have your Manuel's EXACT birth, you can order online, but you have
>> to have your Portuguese I.D. card. Do you have one of those?
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:02 PM Horace Melo <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know Manuel came to Fall River in 1966 with my grandmother and passed
>>> away in Fall River on September 15, 2013.
>>>
>>> So good news there. You mentioned being able to purchase a record.  Is
>>> there a certain way to purchase a record?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much Cheri!
>>>
>>> Horace
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 7:44 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Horace,
>>>>
>>>> Yay, progress!
>>>>
>>>> The Azores (and most countries and regions) have their privacy
>>>> concerns. So protections are in place for those who may be living. You
>>>> won't find a 1931 birth or baptism from the Azores online anywhere. The
>>>> books may be sent to the corresponding archive in 2035. And since you are
>>>> talking about Sao Miguel, I don't know what they are going to do. The
>>>> archive said they are out of room. The Civil Registry has the records. If
>>>> you have the EXACT date, you can order a record from that particular Civil
>>>> Registry. They won't do a search for you however. :(
>>>>
>>>> In your original post you said this about your ancestor:
>>>>
>>>> <<Manuel P. Melo: Born in Teatro Novo, Capelas, St. Michael, Azores,
>>>> he was the son of the late Joao and Margarida (de Paiva) Melo and the
>>>> brother of the late Maria dos Anjos Paiva Medeiros and Jose Paiva Melo.>>
>>>>
>>>> So your Manuel P. Melo was born in 1931 in Capelas? When and where did
>>>> he die? Was he the immigrant or did he immigrate with his parents? His
>>>> siblings: Maria dos Anjos Paiva Medeiros and Jose Paiva Melo....were they
>>>> older or younger? Do you have an EXACT date of birth on one of them? If you
>>>> do, order their birth which will name the same parents and grandparents as
>>>> your Manuel.
>>>>
>>>> Hope one of these strategies work!
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:35 PM Horace Melo <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was able to get a year if 1931 for my grandfather from Capelas. The
>>>>> church books only seem to go to 1911.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there resources available for 1931?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Horace
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 8:12 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Horace,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 3 pieces that you need are a name, date, and a place. You have
>>>>>> the names and a place. You need a date or a range. My grandparents were
>>>>>> born in the early 1900s. My dad's grandparents were born in the 1880s.
>>>>>> Saying "grandparents" gives us no clue at all to the date because it's
>>>>>> relative to you. So you need to put a range on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once you get an approximate date, you can search Capelas on the
>>>>>> tombo.pt web site. It's a portal the Azorean government records.
>>>>>> 1) Go to tombo.pt (or tombo.pt/en if you need to navigate in
>>>>>> English).
>>>>>> 2) Type Capelas in the left column. Hit enter.
>>>>>> 3) You want the one with the church called Nossa Senhora da
>>>>>> Apresentação. Click that one.
>>>>>> 4) Start hunting.
>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:03 PM Horace Mello <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone could assist me in finding out any
>>>>>>> information on my father's side of the family.  Below I will provide 
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> names that i found in an obituary for my grandfather.  While I do not 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> too much information, I was wondering if anyone on this forum could 
>>>>>>> help me
>>>>>>> find out any information about my grandfather and his relatives.
>>>>>>> Specifically links to databases, pictures, records, etc.  Anything that
>>>>>>> will help me complete a picture of where I came from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any assistance anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.  I
>>>>>>> joined just now in hopes to learn more about myself and the people who
>>>>>>> proceeded me.  Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what I have for names:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manuel P. Melo: Born in Teatro Novo, Capelas, St. Michael, Azores,
>>>>>>> he was the son of the late Joao and Margarida (de Paiva) Melo and the
>>>>>>> brother of the late Maria dos Anjos Paiva Medeiros and Jose Paiva Melo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, not much but if there is anyone out there who may know
>>>>>>> something please share!
>>>>>>>
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