Thanks you, Marcos! This is one of the hardest things to teach beginning researchers. This is a wonderful explanation.
Rosemarie [email protected] Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:49 AM Marcos Saturno <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > Maybe as I was born and brought up in Brazil and speak Portuguese as my > first language I could try to shed some light in issue of surname suffix. > As Cheri said, regardless of having the suffix or not the surname remains > the same. > In the past people added suffixes, such as da, de, dos which are exactly > the same as “Von” in German or “Van” in Dutch, to make them sound more > important or noble. > Since the 50s in Brazil, some family branches started getting rid of them, > so rather being Maria de Figueiredo de Magalhães, she would be registered > simply Maria Figueiredo de Magalhães. > Some families remove the suffix when it is in front of the first surname, > so Manuel da Silva Brito is simply Manuel Silva Brito. > In my family, many de Araújo and de Menezes lost the “de”once it became > the first surname, including an auntie who not only dropped it, but didn’t > pass it to her children. > Sometimes it may also indicate provenance, de Lucena, from the Andalusian > city of Lucena in Spain for instance. > Whether you or you ancestors have the suffix or not the surname remains > the same: > Silveira or da Silveira > Lago ou do Lago > Souza or de Souza > Santos or dos Santos > Regards, > Marcos > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Mar 2019, at 02:53, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's the same. I'm guessing that sometimes the "dos" got recorded and > sometimes it didn't. Too much vinho. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:38 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hmm, I guess my question should have been phrased differently. In the >> same time period, there are many with the surname Santos but; only a few >> who go by dos Santos. Different family lines? No other surnames are >> included on any of the dos Santos that I’ve seen but; Santos sometimes >> stands alone and sometimes is accompanied by other surnames. >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Friday, March 1, 2019 6:43 PM >> *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another surname question: Santos and >> dos Santos >> >> >> >> Santos is the surname. "dos" the prefix. >> >> >> >> Literally: >> >> dos= of the (plural) >> >> Santos= Saints. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:37 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> If one uses the back-slashes for the surname both Santos and dos /Santos/ >> would show up with only Santos as the surname. 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