Hi everyone, Glad I was able to help. Happy researching! Marcos Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Mar 2019, at 20:37, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Marcos, Thank you for the excellent explanation. Now, I just need to figure out when the de/da/do/dos is referring to a holy name/saint, a location or a family. But; we all thrive on challenges, don’t we!? Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Marcos Saturno<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 12:49 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another surname question: Santos and dos Santos Hi everyone, Maybe as I was born and brought up in Brazil and speak Portuguese as my first language I could try to shed some light in issue of surname suffix. As Cheri said, regardless of having the suffix or not the surname remains the same. In the past people added suffixes, such as da, de, dos which are exactly the same as “Von” in German or “Van” in Dutch, to make them sound more important or noble. Since the 50s in Brazil, some family branches started getting rid of them, so rather being Maria de Figueiredo de Magalhães, she would be registered simply Maria Figueiredo de Magalhães. Some families remove the suffix when it is in front of the first surname, so Manuel da Silva Brito is simply Manuel Silva Brito. In my family, many de Araújo and de Menezes lost the “de”once it became the first surname, including an auntie who not only dropped it, but didn’t pass it to her children. Sometimes it may also indicate provenance, de Lucena, from the Andalusian city of Lucena in Spain for instance. Whether you or you ancestors have the suffix or not the surname remains the same: Silveira or da Silveira Lago ou do Lago Souza or de Souza Santos or dos Santos Regards, Marcos Sent from my iPhone On 2 Mar 2019, at 02:53, Cheri Mello <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It's the same. I'm guessing that sometimes the "dos" got recorded and sometimes it didn't. Too much vinho. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:38 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hmm, I guess my question should have been phrased differently. In the same time period, there are many with the surname Santos but; only a few who go by dos Santos. Different family lines? No other surnames are included on any of the dos Santos that I’ve seen but; Santos sometimes stands alone and sometimes is accompanied by other surnames. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Cheri Mello<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:43 PM To: Azores Genealogy<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another surname question: Santos and dos Santos Santos is the surname. "dos" the prefix. Literally: dos= of the (plural) Santos= Saints. 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