Cheri,
This is a big help; in a fast explanation you’ve listed the steps and
what’s possible.

Mario, I’m a little farther along than you are, and it’s getting easier.
Going back to grandparents in the 1800s,  I’ve enjoyed learning a little
translation and found ways to use google translate on the parts I don’t
know.  The written out year also gets in the way until you figure out how
to read it.

I hope to be at the Conference in June.  Thank you for telling us about it.


Good luck, Mario!

Debbie Shepherd Mendonca

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:28 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mario or Billy,
>
> You are looking a church records. They are done by date. If it's a
> baptism, they are going by baptism date. So they are chronological. It may
> take more than 2 days to get used to it though.
>
> Silva/Silvia and things like that, you'll get use to it.
>
> If you know your dad was Mariano and was born 14 Apr 1914, you can get his
> baptism which will provide his parents and his grandparents and from there,
> you can use the online records. You need to know the exact village your dad
> came from. If he came from the city of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel, you'll
> need to know the church as they have a few.
>
> Once you get the 3 piece of information (name, date, and place -village
> and/or church), you can pay Joao Ventura to retrieve the record for you. He
> takes PayPal. His email is heroi99 at yahoo.com
>
> After that, we can show you the format that the records follow for the 3
> time periods. It's on the Azores GenWeb here:
>
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-9/
>
> And if you learn better in person than reading and figuring it out on your
> own, you are in luck. We are having a Portuguese Genealogy Conference in
> June in Salt Lake City. That information is here:
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/2019slcazoresconfv12.pdf
>
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:15 PM Billy Shear <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I've wasted two days, going through Birth records,Passport records
>> Baptismal records looking over the Centro de Conhecimento. All such a waste
>> of time. I don't understand their system, nothing is files by dates(like
>> year,month,day) they start with first names. So in my case. His first name
>> was Manuel and my Grandmother is Maria, page after page so disappointing. I
>> think I'll just forget about trying to find out were they came from and
>> just visit the Island. I would think someone would come up with a better
>> system. To make things worst their last name was changed from DaSilva to
>> Silvia when they come from Sao Miguel, Ponta Delgarda to the USA,so much
>> for accuracy. So half my cousins are Silva and the other half are Silvia.
>> My father was born there and his first name was Mariano, now that's a
>> different name. I found a few pages with that first name however it does
>> not go to April 14,1914. I hope when I get there it will be some what
>> easier.
>>
>> Thank for any help
>> Mario Silvia
>>
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