There is no historical evidence that this is true:  "most animal, etc. names 
came about because of the new Christians having to hide being in truth a Jew" 
and in fact there is much more evidence that this was not the case.

I can provide multiple citations disproving this fact if folks are interested, 
however, the vast majority are in Portuguese, hence why I haven't provided them 
here since I know most people on this list don't read fluent Portuguese.

Sonia




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From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:06 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares record

[EXTERNAL SENDER]

Marcos;  Thank you so much for this extended reply.  Yes, I did know that 
Coelho meant rabbit but; no, I did not known that most animal, etc. names came 
about because of the new Christians having to hide being in truth a Jew.  That 
is very interesting to me.



Like many of us whose ancestors are from the Azores, I have ancestors who 
immigrated to Brazil.  I have had a couple of dna matches from there. Although, 
we have not yet been able to pin down the immigrating ancestor.  One line does 
however; show Menezes in it.  Perhaps, we too are cousins. 😊



Again, thank you for this information.



>From sunny, hot and humid Mazatlán, Mexico



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



From: Marcos Saturno<mailto:markus...@live.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 5:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares record



Hey Sam,

I don’t think Coelho is as such a common surname such as Smith or Jones.

I can only tell from my own experience, but I grew up in pretty much a 
Portuguese ‘colony’ in Rio de Janeiro and never came across many then (most of 
my classmates had a Portuguese parent and sometimes both.)

Though not every Brazilian is from Portuguese origin, I think my Brazilian 
experience could help put things into perspective as most people in my 
generation has a Portuguese surname (or family name) and we also use the ‘2 
surname’ Portuguese tradition: mother’s family name followed by the father’s 
family name. This way, a person’s heritage is sometimes more obvious.

Saying that, I’m not sure how common it is in the Azores.

I only have ever met one Coelho in Brazil (a high school friend) and one in 
Portugal (she was from Setúbal)

I’m sure you are aware Coelho means ‘rabbit’ and is one of the many ‘animal or 
tree name’ surnames attributed to Jews forced to convert to Catholicism to 
avoid expulsion from Portugal like Lobo (wolf), Carneiro (Lamb), Pinto (chick) 
or Carvalho (oak), Pereira (pear tree) and Oliveira (olive tree). I’d say that 
Carvalho and especially Oliveira is far more common than Coelho for example.

I guess the most common Portuguese surnames are Silva and Santos (including 
varieties such as da Silva and dos Santos).

Found in every corner of continental Portugal, the islands,  Brazil and ALL of 
the former colonies, including Goa and Damão now in India.

I recently met a colleague from Madeira at work who told me that he thought my 
own surname ‘de Menezes’, is more common in the islands rather than in 
continental Portugal, I still don’t know where my ancestors from that side came 
from (or my mother’s side for that matter though I have a good match in São 
Jorge.)

However, I read an article a few years ago, that stated that not all Portuguese 
‘animal or tree name’ surnames could definitely trace back to new Christian 
ancestors.

In any case, a new Christian surname would place your ancestors in Portugal for 
a few centuries I think.

Greetings from grey London, we are expecting a heatwave though, so we’ll soon 
enjoying ‘barbecue weather’ as the English say!

Regards, Marcos







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On 25 Jun 2019, at 23:02, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Thanks Cheri.  When I was in Lisbon, many years ago. I notice a lot of store 
fronts with The name Coelho, my surname, on them.  I figured it was like “Jones 
or Smith” in the U.S.



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



From: Cheri Mello<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares record



I've seen it and know people who have it. It's not the most common Silva & 
Silveira. It's not rare either. So in the middle? Cheri



On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 6:42 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Out of curiosity, can anyone comment on how common a name Coelho is in the 
Azores.  My Coelho line comes from Santa Maria.



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 1:57 PM
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That's a tough one... I tried highlighting it, but i think the important info 
is faded at the bottom...



<doreencaet...@gmail.com<mailto:doreencaet...@gmail.com>> escreveu no dia 
segunda, 24/06/2019 à(s) 18:03:

I can not read this record at all. I only know that it is the marriage record 
for Manuel Coelho and Maria Vieira. This comes from the Terceira Marriage index.

It is the bottom record on the right side of the page. Any additional 
information would be appreciated. Thanks, Doreen Caetano

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