American arrival records can be tricky. It was up to the captain to decide which ports people would be counted at (see John P. Coletta's "They Came In Ships" and Michael C. Tepper's "American Arrival Records" for further discussion). The captain could have sailed to NY (before 1890/1891 it was Castle Garden, after that date, it was Ellis Island), said everybody off, and they were counted there. Or he could have said only those whose destination was NY get off and those going to New Bedford, etc, may stay on the ship. My ancestor sailed into NY, but disembarked in New Bedford. She's counted in NY. And then again, the immigrant my say that they immigrated to NY because that's where they first saw America, regardless of where they actually disembarked. So you have to check multiple ports.
The Morton Allen Directory lists all the ships and dates coming into NY. Your local public library has all the books that I've mentioned. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Gordon, > > > > The last Couple of columns, starting at the very last, are: Observations > [here they record physical characteristics], next is, Nome de Navio/Ship’s > Name. > > > > Some times findings turn out some surprises but that’s how it was. Sorry, > can’t answer your question about the port of arrival but if you say it’s > New York, most likely you will find them in Ellis Island records. > > > > Actually, Joe Matias was the one who found your grandmother Marcelina’s > passport. The link below is for your grandfather Manuel. I won’t post the > link here to avoid confusion, but please do check your email for his > message to you. > > > > Margaret > > > > *From: *Gordon soares <[email protected]> > *Sent: *August 15, 2019 1:47 PM > *To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help > > > > Hi Margaret: > > As usual you are amazing at finding these documents.I’m having trouble > reading the column headings and all the scratch scratch in the last couple > of columns.What they heck is that? > > I have the marriage certificate for my grandparents…It created a great > deal of angst for my father when he found out his mother and dad both had > incognitos. Kind of unnerving in his day, I guess. > > Do you think if the ship my grandmother was on—the SS Dona Maria—landed in > New York would she be listed in Ellis Island? > > Finally, how do I find Manuel Machado Soares’ ship manifest like you did > for Marcelina? > > Gordon > > > > On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Gordon, > > > > Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329 > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html > > > > From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html > > > > Margaret > > > > *From: *Gordon soares <[email protected]> > *Sent: *August 14, 2019 4:28 PM > *To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] help > > > > I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t > seem to find the ship passenger list. > > > > Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902. > > The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing > it is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think? > > > > I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who > applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete > the process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization > papers that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find > his ship or other immigration info for him. 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