It's the French that gets misread. There was some French influence on Sao
Miguel and my mom has some French as well.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:45 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Plus you can’t be 33% of your dad is only 12% Iberian, lol.   Your chart
> is crazy.
>
> Is the French possibly because of the Flemish?   Jesse had previously been
> tagged as more French.
>
> All 4 of his own grandparents immigrated to Hawaii from either São Miguel
> or Madeira, yet he is about 15-20% other.   He has shown to be 3-5%
> Ashkenazi on several estimates with Ancestry and FTDNA.
>
> ITS FASCINATING!
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ancestry uses trees for the "spot on" analysis. Imagine the poor person
>> who has a poorly researched tree and everyone copies without verification?
>> And they are on the wrong island(s)? People move around, so pinpointing a
>> location is going to be close to impossible with DNA.
>>
>> My dad is 50% Azorean (his paternal grandparents came from there).
>> Therefore, I am 25%. My mother has no Portuguese in her whatsoever. She has
>> long lines in the U.S. and based on the surnames, she's heavy English,
>> Irish, and Scot.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> My dad does get readings from Africa, probably due to the Moors and all
>> that history. His French may be misread stuff from the Roman Empire, such
>> as the Franks.
>>
>> I find FTDNA's 33% Iberian really funny because I'm only 25%. Oh well,
>> we'll see what the next update holds.
>>
>> In the meantime, I'm going to work my matches and figure out connections
>> that I didn't have before. That's where the whole meat of this is at right
>> now.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:20 PM 'Lisa' via Azores Genealogy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The most recent update on AncestryDNA was spot on (finally) including
>>> correctly identifying my islands:  43% Portuguese—>Azores—>Pico & Sao Jorge.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:47 PM, E. Sharp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The difference of DNA tests between FTDNA and Ancestry is impossible to
>>> understand.    I traced a line very carefully.  One brother used FTDNA, his
>>> sister used  Ancestry.  FTDNA results came out very closely to my research
>>> to the 1500’s Portuguese, Italian, Croatian and English. Ancestry says
>>> mostly French....I have found no French thus far in this family???????? Go
>>> figure.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rob W,
>>>
>>> There is no way to give you any advise without me looking at your DNA
>>> page on FTDNA. I would be a lot of guesses and nothing concrete.
>>>
>>> Here are the join instructions:
>>>
>>> Log into the FTDNA page with the kit number and password.
>>>
>>> Across the top is says: myFTDNA, DNA Tests, Projects....Point at
>>> Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click "Join a project."
>>>
>>> If the Azores Islands appears on the top, click the link and scroll down
>>> to the JOIN button at the end.
>>>
>>> If the Azores Islands is not suggested, scroll down to where it says
>>> "Search by Surname" and type: azores.
>>>
>>> When Azores Islands appears, click the link and follow the directions.
>>>
>>>
>>> ==================
>>>
>>> My guess is that "Du Coyte" may be "do Couto."
>>>
>>> After you join the Azores DNA Project, I can tell you more. Otherwise,
>>> it's just some wild guesses.
>>> Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer), Azores DNA
>>> Project
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:57 AM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> One of my 2nd Great Grandfather's came to South Australia in 1848.
>>>> Unfortunately most shipping lists of the time have"not survived"  to
>>>> use the official term.There are some Newspaper reports but they are
>>>> notoriously unreliable and misspellings abound.
>>>> He was born about 1808 and went by the name of Joseph Josephs which
>>>> unfortunately was not his real name. His real name was supposed to be Du
>>>> Coyte or something similar
>>>> When one of his daughter's died the obituary said that her father
>>>> fought in the Crimean war which is impossible of course because he was
>>>> already in Australia before that war began.
>>>> He may have fought in the Portuguese civil war as he would have been
>>>> old enough.
>>>>
>>>> He probably came to Australia via England. Very hard to find a name
>>>> when you don't know what name to look for? He was however Portuguese and
>>>> spoke very poor English.
>>>>
>>>> I have had my DNA tested with Ancestry and uploaded my info To "My
>>>> Heritage" FTDNA,Living DNA and Gedmatch.
>>>> Ancestry does not recognize my Portuguese ancestry although it did
>>>> originally, however "My Heritage" does!!
>>>>
>>>> I have been checking my Portugal matches on Ancestry and over 90% of
>>>> them have an ancestor from the Azores within 3-4 generations.  I don't know
>>>> how common that is in the overall Portuguese population??
>>>> I do know that Joseph was suppose to have come from an island and had a
>>>> brother that went to South America,Brazil??
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a bit long winded but do you think it is reasonable to
>>>> assume that Joseph came from the Azores? At least at this stage?
>>>>
>>>> I'm just looking for an opinion and as I have explained I have next to
>>>> nothing to go on!!!
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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