what are the names in that second column ? ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Seidler <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 17 January 2020 3:45 PM To: Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tracing Francisco José Cordeiro
This is asking a lot, but I am hoping someone will take up interest and offer me an opinion or guidance. I suspect my wife's 2d Great Grandfather left the Azores in the 1860s and ended up in New Zealand. He is mentioned on his last child's baptism (João) in 1854. Then he is the father of the groom on the same child's marriage in 1882. It does not say he was absent, but I don't think it would since the groom was of age. If my theory is correct he would have already been gone. He is also mentioned as the paternal grandfather on the baptisms of the four children of his son João. His first son, Manuel, left around 1869 and ended up in Sacramento, CA under the name Manuel J. Lamb. His second son died as an infant. He is next mentioned in his wife's (Maria Isabel) Obit which states that she is still married to Francisco José Cordeiro. It confirms that she is leaving two sons which concurs with the baptisms and obit I have found for their children. Then on the list of inventories available on Sãojorgegenealogy.org (image attached), her son João (Manuel was already in Sacramento) is listed as the one doing the inventory. Would this have been her husband if he were present? If the theory I am attempting to test in true, her husband was already married to someone else in New Zealand by this time. In New Zealand, Francis Joseph (who I suspect is Francisco José Cordeiro) reported that he was married before but was widowed. My wife is a close DNA match to descendants of the Francis Joseph in New Zealand. There is one descendant of Antonio José Cordeiro (Francisco's father on Gracioisa) that matches both my wife and the descendants of Francis Joseph in New Zealand. I have attached links to the CCA records that tracked Francisco José Cordeiro to the extent I was able and a .jpg image in the inventory list for any that would be willing to help me sort this out. His baptism in 1828 São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa: (Francisco, starting just below top right). http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1826-1833_item1/P30.html His marriage in 1849 in São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel (starts bottom left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P121.html First child baptism in 1849 São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa (starts bottom right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1841-1855/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1841-1855_item1/P179.html Second child baptism in 1852 Urzelina, São Jorge (Third on left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855_item1/P82.html Second child’s obit in Urzelina a month later: (second on right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858_item1/P41.html Third child’s baptism in 1854 in Urzelina (bottom left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1855-1860/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1855-1860_item1/P14.html Third child’s marriage in 1882 in Urzelina (left side) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1880-1889/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1880-1889_item1/P24.html Wife’s obit in 1901 in Urzelina (bottom right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911_item1/P14.html Thanks to anyone who just took the time to read this. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/521364d0-f672-4dc0-b385-7a91eedfbf43%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/521364d0-f672-4dc0-b385-7a91eedfbf43%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/MEAPR01MB341420AB4C916AF6A59D547D97310%40MEAPR01MB3414.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
