Bill S, Can you also attach a family group sheet for this family? It would make it a bit easier to follow. Thanks! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 3:45 PM Bill Seidler <[email protected]> wrote: > This is asking a lot, but I am hoping someone will take up interest and > offer me an opinion or guidance. I suspect my wife's 2d Great Grandfather > left the Azores in the 1860s and ended up in New Zealand. > > He is mentioned on his last child's baptism (João) in 1854. Then he is > the father of the groom on the same child's marriage in 1882. It does not > say he was absent, but I don't think it would since the groom was of age. > If my theory is correct he would have already been gone. He is also > mentioned as the paternal grandfather on the baptisms of the four children > of his son João. His first son, Manuel, left around 1869 and ended up in > Sacramento, CA under the name Manuel J. Lamb. His second son died as an > infant. > > He is next mentioned in his wife's (Maria Isabel) Obit which states that > she is still married to Francisco José Cordeiro. It confirms that she is > leaving two sons which concurs with the baptisms and obit I have found for > their children. > > Then on the list of inventories available on Sãojorgegenealogy.org (image > attached), her son João (Manuel was already in Sacramento) is listed as the > one doing the inventory. Would this have been her husband if he were > present? If the theory I am attempting to test in true, her husband was > already married to someone else in New Zealand by this time. In New > Zealand, Francis Joseph (who I suspect is Francisco José Cordeiro) reported > that he was married before but was widowed. > > My wife is a close DNA match to descendants of the Francis Joseph in New > Zealand. There is one descendant of Antonio José Cordeiro (Francisco's > father on Gracioisa) that matches both my wife and the descendants of > Francis Joseph in New Zealand. > > I have attached links to the CCA records that tracked Francisco José > Cordeiro to the extent I was able and a .jpg image in the inventory list > for any that would be willing to help me sort this out. > > > His baptism in 1828 São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa: (Francisco, starting > just below top right). > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1826-1833_item1/P30.html > > > His marriage in 1849 in São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel (starts > bottom left) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P121.html > > > First child baptism in 1849 São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa (starts bottom > right) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1841-1855/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1841-1855_item1/P179.html > > > Second child baptism in 1852 Urzelina, São Jorge (Third on left) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855_item1/P82.html > > > Second child’s obit in Urzelina a month later: (second on right) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858_item1/P41.html > > > Third child’s baptism in 1854 in Urzelina (bottom left) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1855-1860/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1855-1860_item1/P14.html > > > Third child’s marriage in 1882 in Urzelina (left side) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1880-1889/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1880-1889_item1/P24.html > > > Wife’s obit in 1901 in Urzelina (bottom right) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911_item1/P14.html > > > Thanks to anyone who just took the time to read this. > > Bill Seidler > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/521364d0-f672-4dc0-b385-7a91eedfbf43%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/521364d0-f672-4dc0-b385-7a91eedfbf43%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G8wahc08v94JosTC0cG6rHWjy6%2BrwVQUiw3sj7p44GCA%40mail.gmail.com.
