dear pere, the type of questions you have been asking relate to post-masoretic hebrew, i.e. involves shoresh AND niqud. there is nothing wrong with this, except (as is becoming clear (for me) from recent correspondence) you are considering a dialect consolidated over a very long time. so, i dont know if you can expect very clear-cut answers or a single logic behind the words.
my best shot is this: words with cere-segol are true nouns derived from verbs, and allow the plural. they contain all 3 letters of a recognized hebrew root. and stress on the 1st syllable the small set of words with cere-cere may have originated from other word constructions which do not allow the plural: teveth (the name of a month), and tevel (there is only one...). they do not coincide with the three letters of a recognized hebrew root (unless the late TBL=spice is included as a root; even there, hebrew makes an exception and calls it TAVLIYN). and stress on the second syllable. what these alleged "other constructions" were, i cannot imagine. as i fail to see agriculture in the semitic (lunar!) months, i can only imagine TEVETH to have an astronomical connotation - by the way, so does TEVEL... i also wonder why you consider those and not, for example, segol-segol. best nir cohen >>>> De: Pere Porta <[email protected]> Cópia: Hebrew <[email protected]> Para: Randall Buth <[email protected]> Data: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:05:21 +0200 Assunto: Re: [b-hebrew] Tevel vs Evel Dear b-hebrew listees, I'm doing a comparison between several noun types in order to make some systematization of their patterns. I find nouns consisting of three root letters with tsere in the first and tsere in the second. And so, TBL, world (Ps 19:5) or TB+, Tebeth (a month of the year) (Est 2:16) And I find nouns consisting of three root letters with tsere in the first but with segol in the second: )BL, mourning (2Sa 14:2) SFR, book (2Sa 1:18) $B+, tribe (Gn 49:10) Can anyone provide a good reason of this different pattern? I mean: not *"the Hebrew language is like this*", but, so to say, an "internal" reason. --Have nouns tsere-tsere a feature common to all them? --Have nouns tsere-segol a feature common to all them, a common denominator? --Could we, given this and this and this root consonants, know in advance which pattern (tsere-tsere or tsere-segol) the resulting noun would fit if both vowel sounds are to be 'e'? Friendly, Pere Porta (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain) _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
