And there are a lot of Spanish speaking cows on the moon, by the way the earth is flat: no evidence but that doesn't matter. Peter Streitenberger, Germany
> Dear list-members, > > This thread has brought up many interesting observations and arguments. I > think it is time to draw the lines together. What started the thread was > my words that there is even good evidence that the the tetragram in some > form occurred in the NT autographs. In my posts I have tried to present > the case in an undogmatic way. > > EVIDENCE > > a) All the fragments of the LXX up to 50 CE have the tetragram or IAO. > b) The LXX manuscripts from the second century CE onward have KS in quotes > from The Tanakh where YHWH is found. > > c) We do not possess the NT autographs and do not know whether they > contained YHWH or YAO. > > d) The NT manuscripts from the second century CE onward have KS. > > Conclusion regarding this evidence: The KS in the LXX manuscripts > represent textual corruption; someone deliberately changed the text from > YHWH/IAO to KS. The KS in the NT manuscripts also represents textual > corruption, because KS was not written in the original NT manuscripts. The > pattern of the LXX (YHWH/IAO ----> KS) suggests, but do not prove, that > the NT autographs contained YHWH or IAO. > > ARGUMENTS > > a) Exodus 3:15 NIV says regarding YHWH: "This is my name for ever, the > name I am to be remembered from generation to generation." The witness of > the whole Tanakh is that YHWH should be used for ever and not any > substitute. (A name was extremely important for the Jews.) > > b) Jesus and the NT writers unanimously say that the Tanakh is the truth > of God and must not be altered. Traditions and customs that are against > the sayings of the Tanakh are condemned. Thus, there is no reason why the > NT writers should not follow Exodus 3:15 and other similar passages, even > if other persons used a substitute for YHWH. > > c) The argument in favor of the inclusion of KURIOS in the NT is that the > general custom in the first century CE was to say 'adonay when YHWH was > written. The NT writers followed this custom and used KURIOS in the NT. > There is evidence that in the last two centuries BCE the religious order > at Qumran did not pronounce God's name, but used )L instead. There is no > evidence that different groups in the second or first century BCE used > )DNY as a substitute for YHWH. But there is evidence from the DSS that > some who wrote manuscripts that were imported to Qumran, used YHWH until > 70 CE. There is also evidence in Tosefta that the Pharisees and the > Morning-bathers used YHWH in the first century CE, and there is evidence > in the Talmud that the minim (most likely Christians) used YHWH in the > first century CE. There is also much evidence for a widespread use of IAO > from the third century BCE to the second century CE. > > d) The evidence is that YHWH was in use in the days of Jesus, and even if > only )DNY had been used, there is no reason to believe that Jesus would > have violated the Tanakh by using a substitute for YHWH. > > FINAL CONCLUSION: Because the oldest extankt NT manuscripts have a > corrupt textâKS was not in the originalâwe cannot know with certainty > how the NT autographs rendered God's name. But the bulk of the evidence > suggests that YHWH was found in the NT autographs, because, 1) the command > of the Tanakh is that the YHWH should be used for ever, 2) Jesus and the > NT writers did not follow the traditions of men, 3) when the NT writers > quoted the Tanakh where the name occurs, there was no reason why they > should not use YHWH in their quoted texts, and 4) the text of the LXX was > tampered with, and God's name was removed from it between 50 and 130 CE. > The same substitute, KS; is found in the NT and LXX manuscripts from the > second century, and this suggests that the NT was tampered with in the > same way as the LXX wasâYHWH was removed and KS was used as a > substitute. > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rolf Furuli > Stavern > Norway > _______________________________________________ > b-hebrew mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew > _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
