Thank you for picking that up, Jason - spot on. Couldn't have said it better myself. In fact, I didn't... :-)
Best regards, Stephen Shead ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jason Hare <[email protected]> > To: B-Hebrew <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:18:58 +0300 > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name... > It seems to me that Stephen Shead and T. Scott Lawson may be talking past > each other here. > > I don't think that Stephen is attempting to make the point that the NT > doesn't use κύριος instead of יהוה when quoting from the OT. He is saying > that he is unaware of any evidence that the NT originally included יהוה in > the text (whether in a standard square-script Hebrew or some sort of > paleo-Hebrew form) that was later changed (substituted) with the Greek term > κύριος. > > I think you're talking about two different points in the process. > > Stephen is talking about a situation in which one might find something > like this in a Greek manuscript of the New Testament: > > Hebrews 7:21b > ΩΜΟΣΕΝיהוהΚΑΙΟΥΜΕΤΑΜΕΛΗΘΗΣΕΤΑΙΣΥΙΕΡΕΥΣΕΙΣΤΟΝΑΙΩΝΑ > Compare this to the modern critical text: Ὤμοσεν κύριος, καὶ οὐ > μεταμεληθήσεται, Σὺ ἱερεὺς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα. > > I'm sure you see the insertion of יהוה into the Greek text there. > > While we find nomina sacra (in this case, it would be ΚΣ) in the > manuscripts, Stephen is asking for manuscript evidence that the New > Testament (rather than the Septuagint) ever contained actual Hebrew letters > amidst the Greek when it represented the Tetragrammaton. > > Regards, > Jason Hare > > Thanks Stephen for your reply! >> >> I would note that the substitution of κύριος can make for awkward Greek >> which may carry over to the NT: >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=432&p=9056&hilit=%CE%BA%CF%85%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%82#p9056 >> >> There is also the strange statement at 1 Cor. 2:16 which may be resolved >> by viewing κύριος as a substitution for YHWH: >> τίς γὰρ ἔγνω νοῦν κυρίου, ὃς συμβιβάσει αὐτόν; ἡμεῖς δὲ νοῦν Χριστοῦ >> ἔχομεν. >> >> Thanks again for your comments Stephen, >> >> T. Scott Lawson >> >> Red Bluff, CA USA > >
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