I think that description of a shill is fairly accurate myself (but then, I don't think I always fall under the WP NPOV guidelines! ;)
Now then, all this discussion regarding MS, DRM, fair use, more DRM, Apple, Windows, more DRM etc... I find hugely interesting, and I even take part in discussions myself - unless other people beat me to making the point I was going to make myself. That said, I am beginning to agree more and more with those who are pointing out that this list is *not* the best venue for all this DRM- and quite specifically-related debate, and I think many of us will agree it's not the kind of off-topic discussion that the Backstage list was primarily brought into being to be a host to. Is there a way the Beeb could make another list just for discussion of these kind of topics, which can run in parallel alongside the main Backstage mailing list (which I've always thought is more for discussion of mashups, new and novel ways of using the BBC's offerings via APIs and feeds and the like)? I'd like to see a 'decluttering' of all this lengthy, and sometimes roundabout, discussion of DRM, iPlayer, interoperability, platform neutrality, but at the same time I'd appreciate the input from people actually working on these kind of projects at the BBC and beyond, but without all of this vigorous (and sometimes heated) debate sullying and diluting the main Backstage list. I know this has been raised in the past, but given this current round of discussions which is taking the list off-topic again, I feel it's more suitable for discussion. I'd definitely subscribe to (and participate in) both! Cheers Christopher > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Joly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2007 21:17 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, > Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City > > At 19:44 +0100 15/8/07, Dave Crossland wrote: > >On 15/08/07, Paul Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dear Dave, > >> Who is Dan Lyons? > > > >A journalist for Forbes who has constantly attacked the software > >freedom movement. > > > >> What is a shill? > > > >"A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a > >political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and > >assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention > of the shill > >is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of > the set-up > >to purchase said goods or services or support the political group's > >ideological claims. Shills are often employed by confidence > artists and > >governments." > >- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill > > > > > And from that Wikipedia link... > > >>This article has been nominated to be checked for its neutrality. > > I like that.... > > Gordo > > -- > "Think Feynman"///////// > http://pobox.com/~gordo/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
