Chris, "Finally, remember that the noise *is *the signal. You can't post too much. Deploy filters."
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html On 15/08/07, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that description of a shill is fairly accurate myself (but then, I > don't think I always fall under the WP NPOV guidelines! ;) > > > Now then, all this discussion regarding MS, DRM, fair use, more DRM, > Apple, > Windows, more DRM etc... I find hugely interesting, and I even take part > in > discussions myself - unless other people beat me to making the point I was > going to make myself. That said, I am beginning to agree more and more > with > those who are pointing out that this list is *not* the best venue for all > this DRM- and quite specifically-related debate, and I think many of us > will > agree it's not the kind of off-topic discussion that the Backstage list > was > primarily brought into being to be a host to. > > Is there a way the Beeb could make another list just for discussion of > these > kind of topics, which can run in parallel alongside the main Backstage > mailing list (which I've always thought is more for discussion of mashups, > new and novel ways of using the BBC's offerings via APIs and feeds and the > like)? I'd like to see a 'decluttering' of all this lengthy, and sometimes > roundabout, discussion of DRM, iPlayer, interoperability, platform > neutrality, but at the same time I'd appreciate the input from people > actually working on these kind of projects at the BBC and beyond, but > without all of this vigorous (and sometimes heated) debate sullying and > diluting the main Backstage list. > > I know this has been raised in the past, but given this current round of > discussions which is taking the list off-topic again, I feel it's more > suitable for discussion. I'd definitely subscribe to (and participate in) > both! > > Cheers > Christopher > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gordon Joly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 15 August 2007 21:17 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, > > Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City > > > > At 19:44 +0100 15/8/07, Dave Crossland wrote: > > >On 15/08/07, Paul Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Dear Dave, > > >> Who is Dan Lyons? > > > > > >A journalist for Forbes who has constantly attacked the software > > >freedom movement. > > > > > >> What is a shill? > > > > > >"A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a > > >political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and > > >assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention > > of the shill > > >is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of > > the set-up > > >to purchase said goods or services or support the political group's > > >ideological claims. Shills are often employed by confidence > > artists and > > >governments." > > >- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill > > > > > > > > > And from that Wikipedia link... > > > > >>This article has been nominated to be checked for its neutrality. > > > > I like that.... > > > > Gordo > > > > -- > > "Think Feynman"///////// > > http://pobox.com/~gordo/ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// > > - > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > > unsubscribe, please visit > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > Unofficial list archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
