On 31/10/2007, Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, I'm not spending my afternoon looking through code but that
> imples it's not finished / ready yet.  Everything's in future tense.  So we
> can discount that.

When is software ever finished?
WinXP gets update every second Tuesday, WMP also gets updated. You
really are a complete hypocrite.

I also don't see how the websites grammar is relevant.

This is why I dislike certain parts of the BBC. They would rather lie
and con there way out of things than admit they where wrong.

It is capable of performing DRM, it is open source. That's all that
was stated by Mr Highland.

> > https://dream.dev.java.net/
> Hmm.  Looks much the same.  A white paper from two years ago, and the
> declaration that "DReaM is an initiative to develop open Digital Rights
> Management (DRM) solution for multiple domains".  "An initiative to
> develop...", not "a fully fledged system..."  Scratch that then.

The specification has been published, and code can be downloaded.
It can perform DRM, it is open source. Again this is all that was stated.

> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/openipmp
> Looks better, but a quick browse of the forums seems to indicate a lot of
> people (and as it's a project in deveopment, I'm guessing most of these
> people are pretty clued up on techy matters) are having a lot of problems
> even getting it to work at all.

Again, read what was claimed by the BBC!
It was claimed that:
> There is no open source digital right management
OpenIPMP is open source, it is digital rights management.

Those applications are capable of providing DRM, they are open source,
therefore the BBC lied and should be held accountable.


> So that's your three "alternatives" dealt with.

Not it isn't.
You failed to show either of the only 2 things needed:
1) That the software is not Open Source.
2) That the software is not DRM.
What was stated was that there is no open source digital rights management.
Your points about completion, grammar, usability are irrelevant in
proving or disproving the given statement as they have nothing to do
with the statement.

You also completely ignored the second point. Presumably because I
(and the majority of security experts) are correct

I again repeat my request:
Prove both points or remove the person responsible from the BBC and
issue a full public apology.


Andy

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