So we're just ignoring WebKit, Darwin, Grand Central and the rest of the stuff on this list?
http://www.apple.com/opensource/ On 5 Feb 2010, at 14:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 13:17, Mo McRoberts <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Since Jobs' return to the helm, Macs have become steadily and >> increasingly more open with each passing year, both in hardware and >> software terms. Remember when the only way to run an alternative OS on >> a Mac was by booting Mac OS which then loaded a special extension >> which loaded the alternative OS over the top of Mac OS? > > Remember when you could buy a Mac clone with Apple's full permission? > That you can run an alternative OS on a Mac with ease these days is > more due to a grudging acceptance of market demands than a great step > towards openness. > > I'd say Apple are less open since SJ's return - the death of the > clones, the death of the Newton (which was licensed to 3rd parties > like Siemens), iTunes Fairplay DRM, the iPhone/Pad lock down and Apple > TV only working with iTunes. What have they done that's open? > > > >> I wouldn't be so sure. I think Apple/Jobs realised that they actually >> *can't* lock down Macs and still sell them. The vision of utility >> get-stuff-done computing is incongruous with the expectations many >> people have of what a computer should let them do. Thus, the solution >> is to create a new category of computing product which pulls elements >> from both. This way, the new platform can be as locked down or as open >> as required with no legacy baggage, while the (rather profitable) more >> open systems continue to sell to those who need that sort of thing. > > What I expect to see is more and more iPhone OS "computers" (like more > or less permanently docked iPads with 15 or 17 inch screens) and fewer > and fewer midrange Macs (and no low end Macs at all). > >> >> Plus, I don't actually think iPhone OS will remain as locked down as >> it is now for too long. Give it 18 months. Two years tops. > > So you're expecting Steve Jobs to leave in 18 months to two years? > That's the about the only way I could see that happening. > > >> >>> The only thing I don't get is why people bother to jailbreak their >>> pads/pods/phones/apple tvs when more open hardware is available. >> >> Because the pads/pods/phones/apple tvs are well-designed and do 90%. >> switching wholesale for the sake of that 10% is throwing the baby out >> with the bathwater. >> > > But there are other products that are also well designed and have 100% > functionality, they're just not as fashionable. I think it has more > to do with some people wanting to be followers of fashion (and a > fashion item is something that Apple products have become since SJ's > return) and then finding that fashionable straight jacket is too > tight. It's just not rational behaviour. > > > Scot > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
