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> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:20 AM
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> Subject: [BackupPC-users] Best software to backup BackupPC Server to
tape
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> I have BackupPC working great on a nice, large 2.4TB system 
> and it's now backing up almost everything in the company with 
> a nice rotation set up.
> That's great as long as we just need to restore a file or an 
> individual system, but I need to also protect against 
> catastrophic failure.
> 
> So, what I want to do is to be able to make a backup of the 
> BackupPC system to tape once a week to send off-site.  The 
> idea being that if the whole computer room goes up in smoke, 
> I can bring in the tape, reconstruct my backup machine first 
> and then spawn all the other systems off of that.  
> 
> So, what software would anyone recommend to backup a BackupPC 
> server that will properly handle restoring hard links and 
> will also use an LTO3 tape library to span multiple tapes?  
> (the server already has about 700GB on it)  I would assume 
> someone else out there is already doing this, so what works the best?
> 
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Bacula (http://www.bacula.org/) will support the robotics in libraries
and efficiently handles hardlinks. However, unless you're already fully
committed tape may not be the optimal soloution. A better approach may
be to locally attach another stack of cheap 500Gb SATA drives, mirror
the entire machine at the OS level and migrate the stacks of drives on
and off site. That way your bare metal recovery scenario will simply
involve attaching the drive stack to another box and booting from it. Of
course, this means ensuring support for SATA hot plug and so on. In the
ultimate scenario perhaps run iSCSI (eg.
http://iscsitarget.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FrequentlyAskedQuestio
ns) to another box, preferably at a different location, and mirror the
BackupPC volume (hell, the entire host) to storage on the other machine
in near real time...

Tape has its uses but you're not trying to leverage its implicity value
do single file restores back on to the backuppc machine itself so,
without having a bare metal bootable recovery tape strategy such as with
HP-UX, is there really any significant value in using tape? Put another
way, lets say you buy a stand alone single tape LTO-3 drive such as an
HP Ultrium-960 that can handle your volumes of data in a reasonable
timeframe. Throw in an Ultra320 controller and 18x 400Gb tapes (2.4Tb
onsite, 2.4Tb offsite, 2.4Tb in transit) and you're looking at, say,
us$4,199 + us$250 + us$2000 = $6,500 plus the salary overhead to have
someone feed the tapes to the drive... increase costs accordingly for
using robotics and/or parallel drives to speed things up. 

How much raw drive space can you get setup for us$6,500 or more,
assuming it's principally involved in committing sequential writes and
doesn't need SCSI-level online reliability by virtue of it itself being
the higher order backup entity? Heck, perhaps visualise a couple of
suitcases with 10Gbe plugs that you mate to your backuppc server at the
start of the day with a crossover cable and unplug and ship out to your
vault at the end - should be able to squeeze a few hundred terrabytes
out of that... 

Just my .0002 cents.
:-) 

Kris Boutilier
Information Services Coordinator
Sunshine Coast Regional District


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