I can't see your answer to Susan's question. You basically made a speech
against exploitation, etc. 
Basically, dear Gilberto, you can't call a 9-year old female (who has had
her menses) a "woman" or "young woman" in front of a judge or a court of
law in most any place nowadays (well, maybe with the exception of Saudi
Arabia, etc.) and I doubt if the judge would buy your argument that you
have her consent, that she is an "adult" or "mature" by reason of her
puberty, that you have the consent of her parents, that she is happy with
the matrimonial relationship, that there is no exploitation, etc.
involved, etc., etc. It just won't work

Regards, 
Iskandar


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:03:37 -0600, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In Islam, that's when a person becomes an adult. What other definition
> > of "woman" are you using?
>  
> > Dear Gilberto,
>  
> > So do you think it would be okay today if a mature man married and had
> > intercourse with a ten year old girl so long as she had had her menses?
>  
> I don't think that's the only consideration in a relationship. People
> aren't just biological organs with stopwatches attached to them. I
> think a deeper criteria is that there be a loving non-exploitative
> commited relationship between the people who are married. There are
> some young people are precocious and can handle alot of things. There
> are some older people who are immature and can't. Ultimately age is
> just a number.
> 
> But at the same time I certainly am in favor of efforts to protect
> children from exploitation. And I think a totally reasonable way to
> protect children in 2005 is to pass statutory rape laws, with certain
> age cut-offs even though the exact numbers might be somewhat
> arbitrary.
> 
> Peace
> 
> Gilberto
> 
> 
> 


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