On 10/28/05, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Try to understand what I'm seeing in here. One person likened the
> actions of Muhammad to Milosevic and you are accusing Muhammad of
> genocide and comparing what was done to Banu Qurayzah (unfavorably)
> with the Holocaust."
Susan:
> We are going around in circles Gilberto. The cycle runs something like this.
> You challenge the validity of the Bible on the basis of your own
> preconcieved ethics and morality which are supposedly timeless in nature.
I don't treat the Bible as one book. This argument is specific to
certain commandments. And in any case, it is not clear why you are
arguing because you were doubting whether the descriptions in the
Bible are historical anyway.
> We
> respond by pointing out that by the usual modern standards of ethics and
> morality there are similiar problems with Muhammad's actions.
I'm not using particularly modern standards of ethics.
> Then you
> accuse us of denigrating your own prophet and book.
Not just my own prophet and book, you guys say you love him with all
your heart and love the book too.
> The point was never that
> Muhammad was like Milosevc. It was that that you cannot take the same
> principles of morality of ehtics that are used to judge people like Milsevc
> and project them back on a past age.
It isn't a point you've convincingly demonstrated. There aren't just
"modern values" Different communities and civilizations on this planet
have slightly different values (at the same time). Why should the
values of Muslims living in 2005 be subordinate to the values of
secular Western liberals in 2005?
-Gilberto
--
"There are no poets"
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