Hi,

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22/12/2010.


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16:55:08 <Pramendra> Hi Xavier
16:58:28 <Xavier> hi pramendra!
16:59:20 <Pramendra> How are you? :)
17:00:34 <Xavier> very good!
17:00:37 <Xavier> and you?
17:01:10 <Pramendra> I am also good.
17:03:35 <Pramendra> Thanks for review. I have seen your bugs report. Many of 
them are not problemetic and will be resolved after lining up and finishing the 
flow and code.
17:03:57 <Pramendra> But , there are some query for few of bugs
17:04:11 <Xavier> sure!
17:05:30 <Pramendra> for share box, have you nay example for displaying in our 
defined area?
17:06:30 <Xavier> No - but this is just an iframe to load
17:06:31 <Pramendra> I have used on it on click event, but now it is changing 
on page boby load
17:06:40 <Xavier> or did you use FBML or the graph api to do this?
17:06:40 <Pramendra> yes
17:07:29 <Pramendra> I am using graph api for it
17:07:42 <Xavier> ah, that's probably why
17:09:26 <Pramendra> facebook provide steamHare function for
17:09:34 <Pramendra> streamShare
17:09:49 <Pramendra> sorry
17:10:10 <Pramendra> facebook provide streamShare function for it
17:10:31 <Pramendra> and we call it by script
17:11:13 <Xavier> yes, but as far as I know they filter out what is posted by 
applications, to only be seen by people who have added the application
17:11:55 <Xavier> Instead, you just need to use this URL: 
http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.cnn.com/&t=CNN%26s+website (for 
example, to adapt to the URL you're trying to share)
17:12:23 <Xavier> If you put this in an iframe, you won't even have to load it 
by JS
17:13:54 <Pramendra> yes, right!
17:14:14 <Pramendra> ok I will try it.
17:14:25 <Xavier> : )
17:16:02 <Pramendra> the another one is- you have reported a bug 693419
17:16:44 <Xavier> yep, about the arrays
17:16:55 <Pramendra> yep.
17:17:09 <Pramendra> but that is not my convention of array
17:17:24 <Pramendra> that is the object handling way of cakephp
17:17:43 <Xavier> uh, ok... how does that work?
17:18:17 <Pramendra> by that way it set the attributes to the model object.
17:18:43 <Pramendra> the first elemet that look like the first elemnt of aaary
17:18:50 <Pramendra> that is table name
17:19:03 <Pramendra> cakephp internally handle it
17:19:06 <Xavier> yes, that's actually another of my questions - where can the 
models be found? the apps/models directory is empty
17:20:29 <Pramendra> no
17:20:51 <Pramendra> since it is the in built facility of cakephp
17:21:24 <Xavier> but surely you have to define the correspondances between the 
PHP variables and the SQL tables attributes, no?
17:21:39 <Pramendra> so, you can find these type of things in 
gameapp/cake/libs/model
17:21:55 <Xavier> Hmmm
17:22:17 <Xavier> And what about migrations? (evolutions of the schema when you 
add new fields to tables) ?
17:24:41 <Pramendra> at this time, we will add in table and set them in the 
controllers.
17:25:12 <Pramendra> Are you want it in any another way?
17:31:33 <Pramendra> Are you there, Xavier?
17:36:32 <Xavier> yes sorry
17:36:43 <Xavier> I was in the middle of a conversation
17:37:10 <Xavier> Well, I'm not familiar enough with CakePHP to be able to 
really recommend something better
17:37:21 <Pramendra> ok. fine
17:37:45 <Xavier> So yes, keep it this way and when I'm back from the sprint 
I'll have a better look at it - no worries
17:39:14 <Pramendra> ok
17:40:29 <Pramendra> You have said to ask queries with David till 12 jan.
17:41:08 <Pramendra> Will you be away from keyboard?
17:58:06 <Pramendra> Please ping me, whenever you will be free. I am online 45 
min more.
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18:17:06 <Xavier> yep
18:17:15 <Xavier> I'm there, sorry, my computer crashed
18:17:49 <Pramendra> ok. no problem.
18:18:32 <Pramendra> at that tiem i asked that- You have said to ask queries 
with David till 12 jan. Will you be away from keyboard?
18:19:38 <Xavier> Pretty much the equivalent yes
18:20:15 <Xavier> I may read/answer  sometimes, but I will have very little 
time, so it will be almost afk
18:21:13 <Pramendra> there are some more queries
18:21:37 <Xavier> If you have questions, David should be able to answer you 
most of the time though
18:21:45 <Xavier> he wrote the specs so he knows them well ;p
18:21:59 <Xavier> ah sure, today I still have time, so feel free to ask
18:22:14 <Pramendra> that is - you have said for unique public URL for each game
18:22:25 <Xavier> Yes
18:22:45 <Xavier> the idea behind this is to be able to share a URL to a game 
18:22:51 <Pramendra> Could you please give me an example for it. 
18:23:10 <Pramendra> So that I can change it according you.
18:23:17 <Xavier> For example, let's say that I create a game, and I want to 
mention it in an email to a friend who is not on Facebook
18:23:47 <Pramendra> hmmm.
18:23:54 <Xavier> He won't be able to play, but because the URL is public 
(outside of facebook - no need to be logged), it will be posssible for him to 
see what's happening
18:24:12 <Xavier> of course only the information that all players know about 
should be displayed
18:24:54 <Xavier> Or if we want to give examples of games to journalists - to 
let them have a look at the possible results
18:25:08 <Xavier> And then they can even point to it directly from their article
18:25:09 <Xavier> etc
18:25:43 <Xavier> basically it ensures that we can share URLs to games outside 
of the Facebook mecanisms
18:25:51 <Pramendra> Can the outside person play the game?
18:26:05 <Xavier> Nope - he would have to login to facebook for that
18:26:34 <Pramendra> which steps can he watch of game?
18:26:58 <Xavier> From the moment the game is created to the final results 
after it is finished
18:27:40 <Xavier> But of course at first he would only see very little: the 
card that has been chosen, who is invited/has joined, but that's it (only what 
everyone knows, to prevent cheating)
18:28:36 <Pramendra> But, I can not imagine in which interface, he will be able 
to see status?
18:28:48 <Xavier> The same as the game
18:29:40 <Xavier> I think you can simply have anonymous views of your existing 
pages, and have a unique URL pointing to the right place depending on the stage 
of the game
18:30:10 <Pramendra> I am little bit confuse here.
18:30:19 <Xavier> : )
18:30:24 <Xavier> Sorry if this is confusing
18:30:35 <Xavier> What part confuses you?
18:31:06 <Pramendra> It may be different flow apart from normal flow of game.
18:31:15 <Pramendra> Is it right?
18:31:44 <Xavier> Hmm, I dont think it needs to be apart - it depends what you 
mean by this precisely
18:32:13 <Xavier> Let's take an example
18:32:26 <Pramendra> ok
18:32:28 <Xavier> Let's say that you just created a game
18:33:08 <Pramendra> ok
18:34:21 <Xavier> you think this is going to be an interesting game, and you 
send me an email with the link that you copy from the game
18:34:42 <Xavier> For example, it would be http://cardstories.com/game/1234
18:34:52 <Pramendra> ok
18:35:44 <Xavier> At that point I receive your email, and click on 
http://cardstories.com/game/1234 
18:36:04 <Pramendra> ok
18:36:28 <Xavier> I see what any player would see when he joins the game, 
except that I wouldn't have the cards to chose from displayed
18:37:17 <Xavier> I would just see the same interface, but only the card that 
you have chosen for the game, and the sentence you have selected
18:37:38 <Xavier> ok until now?
18:37:54 <Pramendra> but any other player will not see the card
18:38:17 <Xavier> ah sorry yes, I went a step ahead
18:38:18 <Pramendra> he will see th sentence and cards for picking
18:38:26 <Xavier> yes then I would only see the sentence
18:39:01 <Xavier> the difference would be just that I wouldn't have any card to 
pick, since I'm not logged in
18:39:18 <Xavier> ok?
18:39:23 <Pramendra> ok
18:39:45 <Pramendra> next?
18:40:03 <Xavier> Then if at a later stage, once the players have all picked a 
card and the vote has started, I come back
18:40:31 <Xavier> I would still go to http://cardstories.com/game/1234 but this 
time I would see the vote view
18:41:15 <Xavier> I would see the cards, but not the votes, like any player
18:41:22 <Xavier> but I wouldn't be able to vote
18:41:28 <Xavier> Does it makes sense ?
18:41:35 <Pramendra> ok, after game creation if he will come, then we will get 
the sentence only
18:42:10 <Pramendra> after card picking started, if he come , then he will see 
the picked card
18:42:33 <Pramendra> and when voting started , he will see voting status
18:43:25 <Pramendra> and after announcing result, he will see won/lost status
18:43:46 <Pramendra> Is it right?
18:46:48 <Pramendra> Is it right, Xavier?
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19:08:17 <Pramendra> Xavier, Are you there?
19:55:29 <Pramendra> Xavier, Are you there?
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