Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-08-16.
2011-08-16 01:05:11+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-08-16 03:52:11+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-08-16 04:24:12+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2011-08-16 07:04:02+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-08-16 07:07:58+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-08-16 07:32:15+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online 2011-08-16 08:22:49+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-08-16 09:03:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> http://git.farsides.com/?a=blob&p=share&h=ebe39aa95c8fcd82ea774afc3dbd493626dcb2d1&n=Player1.mp4 2011-08-16 09:09:33+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-08-16 11:18:18+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-08-16 11:33:20+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-08-16 12:03:36+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: start dailymeeting 2011-08-16 12:03:36+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-08-16 12:03:39+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-08-16 12:03:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, yesterday : Started work on turning the shuffled cards face up (#335) 2011-08-16 12:03:41+0000 <eve> Done: : Started work on turning the shuffled cards face up (#335) 2011-08-16 12:03:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, today : Finish work on turning shuffled cards face up (#335), sprint planning. 2011-08-16 12:03:41+0000 <eve> Next: : Finish work on turning shuffled cards face up (#335), sprint planning 2011-08-16 12:03:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, blockers : None. 2011-08-16 12:03:41+0000 <eve> Blockers: : None 2011-08-16 12:03:47+0000 <arbrandes> hiya! 2011-08-16 12:03:50+0000 <blanchard1> eve_: yesterday : worked on the pitch (10 slides, light version of the business plan) 2011-08-16 12:03:50+0000 <eve> Done: : worked on the pitch (10 slides, light version of the business plan) 2011-08-16 12:03:50+0000 <blanchard1> eve_: today : continue on the pitch. Then start the CNC document (big document, this one, like the business plan will take like a week). 2011-08-16 12:03:50+0000 <eve> Next: : continue on the pitch. Then start the CNC document (big document, this one, like the business plan will take like a week) 2011-08-16 12:03:50+0000 <blanchard1> eve_: blockers : none for now 2011-08-16 12:03:50+0000 <eve> Blockers: : none for now 2011-08-16 12:03:51+0000 <antoviaque> hello :) 2011-08-16 12:03:54+0000 <blanchard1> damn 2011-08-16 12:03:58+0000 <arbrandes> hahahaha, I win! :) 2011-08-16 12:04:00+0000 <blanchard1> i wanted to go before arbrandes 2011-08-16 12:04:03+0000 <blanchard1> :) 2011-08-16 12:04:08+0000 <blanchard1> one day i'll manage 2011-08-16 12:04:13+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-08-16 12:04:18+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh 2011-08-16 12:04:19+0000 <antoviaque> ok my turn 2011-08-16 12:04:25+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: yesterday Started refactoring JS client to solidify & extend features there (plebia), discussed over the phone with dachary about his involvement, reviewed alpha3 sprint, cleaning-up ticket system 2011-08-16 12:04:25+0000 <eve> Done: Started refactoring JS client to solidify & extend features there (plebia), discussed over the phone with dachary about his involvement, reviewed alpha3 sprint, cleaning-up ticket system 2011-08-16 12:04:25+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: today Sprint meeting, more cleanup on ticket system, reevaluate critical path to beta 2011-08-16 12:04:25+0000 <eve> Next: Sprint meeting, more cleanup on ticket system, reevaluate critical path to beta 2011-08-16 12:04:25+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: blockers none 2011-08-16 12:04:25+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-08-16 12:04:35+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ? 2011-08-16 12:04:43+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: yesterday i finished #338 (when a player votes, his status should change) 2011-08-16 12:04:43+0000 <eve> Done: i finished #338 (when a player votes, his status should change) 2011-08-16 12:04:45+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: today i have to find a suitable task, i could fix bug #339 (The author is displayed as having joined the game like a player) 2011-08-16 12:04:45+0000 <eve> Next: i have to find a suitable task, i could fix bug #339 (The author is displayed as having joined the game like a player) 2011-08-16 12:04:46+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: blockers none 2011-08-16 12:04:46+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-08-16 12:04:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: yesterday I started working on #337 (create a video to demonstrate Player's view) 2011-08-16 12:04:56+0000 <eve> Done: I started working on #337 (create a video to demonstrate Player's view) 2011-08-16 12:04:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: today I'll try to finish #337 (create a video to demonstrate Player's view) 2011-08-16 12:04:56+0000 <eve> Next: I'll try to finish #337 (create a video to demonstrate Player's view) 2011-08-16 12:04:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: blockers none 2011-08-16 12:04:56+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-08-16 12:05:12+0000 * antoviaque looking at #339 2011-08-16 12:05:44+0000 <antoviaque> yep would be good - do you have this bug too? 2011-08-16 12:05:57+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ^ 2011-08-16 12:05:57+0000 <arbrandes> I can't reproduce it, was going to ask about it 2011-08-16 12:06:06+0000 <mtyaka> ah... ok 2011-08-16 12:06:09+0000 <mtyaka> i didn't try it myself 2011-08-16 12:06:10+0000 <mtyaka> moment 2011-08-16 12:06:32+0000 <antoviaque> could be something funky on my install 2011-08-16 12:07:24+0000 lincoln (lincoln) is now online 2011-08-16 12:07:25+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: cool - I will start using your video to create the new stories for player views btw 2011-08-16 12:07:29+0000 <antoviaque> hi lincoln! 2011-08-16 12:07:38+0000 <lincoln> hello there! :) 2011-08-16 12:07:42+0000 <antoviaque> heya : ) 2011-08-16 12:07:57+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: just a few minutes - finishing a meeting : ) 2011-08-16 12:08:05+0000 <lincoln> ok 2011-08-16 12:08:39+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: so #339 if it's a real bug, and if not we look at a task for you ok? 2011-08-16 12:08:43+0000 <mtyaka> hmm.... i actually get an "Internal server error" when moving from step 2 to step 3 2011-08-16 12:08:51+0000 <antoviaque> : ) 2011-08-16 12:08:58+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: ok 2011-08-16 12:09:09+0000 <antoviaque> Btw dachary won't be able to join in for the next sprint, so in the next meeting we should keep planning thing out without him - actually he is going to come tomorrow to discuss his situation, I'll let him explain 2011-08-16 12:09:11+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, me too 2011-08-16 12:09:37+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger that 2011-08-16 12:09:44+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: ah, i see... 2011-08-16 12:09:56+0000 <mtyaka> dachary changed the database schema 2011-08-16 12:10:00+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, this is probably new 2011-08-16 12:10:12+0000 <antoviaque> the good part is that it frees some budget to extend the deadline on the completion of the board interface - we should thus be able to push it back by 1-2 weeks 2011-08-16 12:10:18+0000 <mtyaka> no such column: serial 2011-08-16 12:10:34+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, bitter-sweet news, then :) 2011-08-16 12:10:37+0000 <antoviaque> basically to compensate for the missing work force 2011-08-16 12:10:39+0000 <antoviaque> yep : ) 2011-08-16 12:10:42+0000 <blanchard1> :) 2011-08-16 12:11:00+0000 <antoviaque> so I think we can say that we have two 2-weeks sprints ahead of us 2011-08-16 12:11:26+0000 <antoviaque> *but* I need to check today the critical path 2011-08-16 12:11:32+0000 <arbrandes> definitely 2011-08-16 12:11:45+0000 <antoviaque> maybe cutting if/where we can 2011-08-16 12:11:54+0000 <antoviaque> but also planning for the bit of polish 2011-08-16 12:12:16+0000 <antoviaque> so well, it's not much time in any case 2011-08-16 12:12:32+0000 <arbrandes> Suggestion: we might want to have four 1-week sprints instead of two 2-week ones. 2011-08-16 12:12:45+0000 <antoviaque> good idea 2011-08-16 12:12:58+0000 <antoviaque> it would also reduce the overhead between each sprint 2011-08-16 12:13:00+0000 <arbrandes> this give us better course-correction flexibility 2011-08-16 12:13:03+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-08-16 12:13:23+0000 <arbrandes> yes, less overhead betweens sprints, but more overhead total 2011-08-16 12:13:42+0000 <antoviaque> understood 2011-08-16 12:13:43+0000 <arbrandes> But imho, worth it in our situation 2011-08-16 12:14:00+0000 <antoviaque> ok - what about the sprint meeting? 2011-08-16 12:14:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I see you got a chance to do some review, and found some bugs 2011-08-16 12:14:31+0000 <antoviaque> I've started cleaning things up with the tracker and prepared the next version/sprint 2011-08-16 12:14:35+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-08-16 12:14:50+0000 <arbrandes> how about we fix them first thing today, so you can accept the stories we did before? 2011-08-16 12:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> what reamins I think is to evaluate the stories for the alpha4 and create the tasks 2011-08-16 12:15:08+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: sounds good 2011-08-16 12:15:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: and then we can both have a look at estimating the next sprint 2011-08-16 12:15:53+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, meanwhile, you could start picking stories for alpha4. When we're done with the bugs, we'll put some bananas on the stories and create tasks. 2011-08-16 12:16:04+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: already done : ) 2011-08-16 12:16:08+0000 <arbrandes> awesome :) 2011-08-16 12:16:36+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, want me to look at the internal server error? 2011-08-16 12:16:44+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, or do you have a handle on it already? 2011-08-16 12:16:50+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: sorted it out already 2011-08-16 12:16:56+0000 <antoviaque> ok - I think we're done for the daily meeting - anything else to discuss? 2011-08-16 12:17:05+0000 <blanchard1> i'm good 2011-08-16 12:17:08+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, not for now, I think we're good 2011-08-16 12:17:15+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: you'll need to delete the sqlite database file 2011-08-16 12:17:17+0000 <antoviaque> okidok 2011-08-16 12:17:22+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: end dailymeeting 2011-08-16 12:17:22+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-08-16 12:17:22+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/459345 2011-08-16 12:17:35+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: glad to see you around :) How have you been? 2011-08-16 12:17:37+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, ahhh, makes sense, thanks :) 2011-08-16 12:17:50+0000 <mtyaka> no problem :) 2011-08-16 12:18:17+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ah yep I had got that one too this morning 2011-08-16 12:18:49+0000 * antoviaque returns to cleaning up the ticket system :) 2011-08-16 12:20:47+0000 <lincoln> antoviaque, hehe, I'm fine, a lot of work as usual, but it's all right 2011-08-16 12:20:56+0000 <lincoln> and you? :) 2011-08-16 12:21:09+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: very well : ) 2011-08-16 12:21:40+0000 <antoviaque> as you can see we're in the rush of finishing the v2 of card stories, with a very cool board interface :) 2011-08-16 12:23:24+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz has done a very good job to improve the accessibility, and arbrandes and mtyaka are hard at work on the implementation :) 2011-08-16 12:23:31+0000 <antoviaque> Not sure if you've met actually 2011-08-16 12:23:45+0000 <arbrandes> not really, no, nice to meet you, lincoln 2011-08-16 12:24:20+0000 <mtyaka> happy to meet you, lincoln 2011-08-16 12:24:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: mtyaka: We've met lincoln in SP with tartarugafeliz last time we came, I learned a lot about the Brazilian free software community through him (among other things ;p) 2011-08-16 12:24:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> Oi Lincoln! :) 2011-08-16 12:24:50+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: arbrandes is Brazilian too, from Rio :) 2011-08-16 12:25:18+0000 <arbrandes> cool! 2011-08-16 12:25:35+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: arbrandes and mtyaka are now the main developpers of Card Stories : ) 2011-08-16 12:26:13+0000 <antoviaque> and damn good at it :p 2011-08-16 12:26:24+0000 <arbrandes> hahaha, you're too kind, antoviaque, thanks :) 2011-08-16 12:26:26+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-08-16 12:27:18+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: and you, what's new? how is Porto Allegre? 2011-08-16 12:27:47+0000 <arbrandes> Ah, Porto Alegre, the free software capital of Brazil... 2011-08-16 12:28:08+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-08-16 12:29:44+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, oi oi! tudo bem? 2011-08-16 12:29:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> tudo bão! :) 2011-08-16 12:30:06+0000 <lincoln> antoviaque, I've looked at card stories last week, it seems amazing! 2011-08-16 12:30:26+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: wait until you see the new version :D 2011-08-16 12:30:59+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: sneak peak => http://cardstories.antoviaque.org:8000/ (create account, then "create a story") 2011-08-16 12:32:37+0000 <lincoln> wow! amazing! 2011-08-16 12:32:50+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-08-16 12:33:04+0000 <antoviaque> told you mtyaka and arbrandes are good :) 2011-08-16 12:34:09+0000 <arbrandes> It's easy when you got excellent design from tartarugafeliz and great all-around help from you, antoviaque :) 2011-08-16 12:34:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> oh don't we love each other :) 2011-08-16 12:34:32+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah - we're cuuute ;p 2011-08-16 12:34:35+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahahah 2011-08-16 12:34:39+0000 <lincoln> hahaha 2011-08-16 12:34:47+0000 <lincoln> yes, I have to say, they're good :) 2011-08-16 12:34:52+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-08-16 12:34:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> too much drawings for kids does this to coder's heads! :D 2011-08-16 12:35:04+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-08-16 12:35:07+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, lincoln ;) 2011-08-16 12:35:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when this version is finished come to play with us lincoln! 2011-08-16 12:35:25+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, hahaha, good one 2011-08-16 12:36:02+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, I'd be glad :) 2011-08-16 12:36:18+0000 <lincoln> so, are you ready to party today? 2011-08-16 12:36:48+0000 <antoviaque> ready to party? uh, always! 2011-08-16 12:36:51+0000 <antoviaque> but for waht? :p 2011-08-16 12:36:53+0000 <lincoln> hahahaha 2011-08-16 12:36:53+0000 <antoviaque> what 2011-08-16 12:37:15+0000 <lincoln> today is the 18th Debian birthday: http://thank-you.debian.net/ 2011-08-16 12:37:25+0000 <lincoln> you have to party, take pictures and send to us :D 2011-08-16 12:38:48+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: added a thank you :p 2011-08-16 12:39:04+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah, ok then, we'll drink some champagne :D 2011-08-16 12:39:08+0000 <lincoln> :D 2011-08-16 12:39:21+0000 <lincoln> antoviaque, hehe, you just found a bug 2011-08-16 12:40:07+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: ahahaha - the red "D" that should be a smiley ? 2011-08-16 12:40:13+0000 <lincoln> hehe, the symbol : prefixes a package name, I should not catch it if there's just a single char after it 2011-08-16 12:40:16+0000 <lincoln> exactly! 2011-08-16 12:40:19+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-08-16 12:40:32+0000 <antoviaque> glad to be able to give more work hehehe 2011-08-16 12:40:50+0000 <antoviaque> lincoln: you developed it? 2011-08-16 12:40:53+0000 <lincoln> yup 2011-08-16 12:41:00+0000 <lincoln> antoviaque, a natural bug hunter born! :) 2011-08-16 12:41:04+0000 <antoviaque> congratz - very cool initiative :) 2011-08-16 12:41:15+0000 <lincoln> thank you 2011-08-16 12:42:05+0000 <lincoln> hey, have you tried nodejs and socket.io stuff? 2011-08-16 12:42:32+0000 <arbrandes> heard about it, haven't tried it yet 2011-08-16 12:42:36+0000 <lincoln> I was reading about it these days and started to think about how fun and productive would be to develop a web game with it 2011-08-16 12:43:10+0000 <antoviaque> dachary did try it I think - in any case I've heard a lot of good things about it 2011-08-16 12:43:33+0000 <antoviaque> (also that it's still a bit early stage, but that feedback starts to date a bit : ) ) 2011-08-16 13:05:26+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now offline 2011-08-16 13:13:33+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: i can't seem to be able to reproduce #339 (The author is displayed as having joined the game like a player) 2011-08-16 13:14:04+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: let me try again 2011-08-16 13:14:26+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, it only happens when using django 2011-08-16 13:14:50+0000 <arbrandes> it's probably got something to do with how the server's returning the player names 2011-08-16 13:15:12+0000 <antoviaque> ah ok 2011-08-16 13:15:18+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: oh, i see, i am not using django 2011-08-16 13:15:35+0000 <arbrandes> I smell a failing "if (owner_id == player[i][0])" 2011-08-16 13:15:38+0000 <antoviaque> yep I always try to test as much as possible in "real" circumstances 2011-08-16 13:16:09+0000 <arbrandes> Good for us that you do :) 2011-08-16 13:16:23+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: i checked the javascript code for this, but as far as i can tell we check it everywhere 2011-08-16 13:16:57+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, yup, what you could do is compare what's different when django's running 2011-08-16 13:17:03+0000 <arbrandes> in the game array 2011-08-16 13:17:06+0000 <mtyaka> i'll try to get django up and then see 2011-08-16 13:18:03+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: could you please explain in a couple of words, what's the purpose of django in Card stories? i have no idea what we are using it for 2011-08-16 13:18:30+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, for now, it's just for handling user registration with passwords, or from Facebook. 2011-08-16 13:18:56+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: i see, thanks! 2011-08-16 13:19:02+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, later, it will handle extras such as buying/selling card decks, etc 2011-08-16 13:50:11+0000 <mtyaka> after some initial problems, i managed to get django up and running, and now i can reproduce the problem. 2011-08-16 13:50:37+0000 <arbrandes> What sort of trouble did you run into? 2011-08-16 13:51:22+0000 <antoviaque> btw I'm changing a bit the views to differentiate stories for later and stories for current sprint (now in two different views), to allow to sort a bit the stories 2011-08-16 13:51:45+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, cool :) 2011-08-16 13:52:08+0000 <antoviaque> I'm also removing the "accepted" state from tasks&bugs, which will now be the stories which aren't affected to a sprint yet 2011-08-16 13:53:10+0000 <arbrandes> ahhh, excellent, the "accepted" was sort of useless otherwise 2011-08-16 13:53:16+0000 <arbrandes> (at least currently) 2011-08-16 13:53:20+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-08-16 13:53:43+0000 <antoviaque> I'm keeping it for the stories though, it's a good way to differentiate since we can't filter by target version 2011-08-16 13:55:19+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: i had to install simplejson - the other issues i had were due to my own stupidity - i mistyped local.cardstories.org in my hosts file, forgot i have another server running on port 80, etc... 2011-08-16 13:55:38+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, hehehe, ok :) 2011-08-16 13:55:50+0000 <mtyaka> now after inspecting what's wrong, this is what i see: 2011-08-16 13:55:57+0000 <antoviaque> a suggestion entered by anyone in the tracker could follow this workflow: new => one day maybe => accepted (becomes a story) => targeted for sprint => gives creation of tasks => task available => task in progress => task ready for review => task merged => story ready for review => story merged 2011-08-16 13:56:00+0000 <antoviaque> if that makes sense ;p 2011-08-16 13:56:26+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, it does 2011-08-16 13:58:08+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: game.players[0][0] is "[email protected]" (my email), while game.owner_id is the number 2 2011-08-16 14:04:48+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, meowwww 2011-08-16 14:04:58+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, it's a translation issue 2011-08-16 14:04:59+0000 <arbrandes> damn 2011-08-16 14:05:32+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, it'll have to be fixed in the djangoauth plugin, probably. 2011-08-16 14:05:57+0000 <arbrandes> if you don't want to get into that can of worms, I can take care of it. 2011-08-16 14:06:31+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: ok, i'll let you do it :) 2011-08-16 14:06:41+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, roger roger :) 2011-08-16 14:52:56+0000 <antoviaque> ok, done with the tracker for now 2011-08-16 14:52:56+0000 <antoviaque> In addition to http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=13 which gives the current sprint(s), there is a new view http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=15 that should give an idea of what's coming next 2011-08-16 14:53:34+0000 <antoviaque> On http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=15 there are the tasks that are critical for playtesting the game (in red/high prio) 2011-08-16 14:54:00+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, niiiiice 2011-08-16 14:54:04+0000 <arbrandes> much clearer, now 2011-08-16 14:54:09+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-08-16 14:54:19+0000 <antoviaque> btw not all the player stories have been created, I'll do the rest once tartarugafeliz is done with the video of the player views 2011-08-16 14:55:27+0000 <antoviaque> I've only included 2 from the chat (the ones necessary to be able to discuss with players who come playtesting and join their games) 2011-08-16 14:55:41+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, cool, from what I see there's more work on the Author before we get there anyway 2011-08-16 14:55:50+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-08-16 14:56:19+0000 <antoviaque> but it can be good to get an idea of the critical path to playtesting : ) 2011-08-16 14:57:26+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhh, definitely 2011-08-16 14:57:36+0000 <arbrandes> Without the stories and the video, we're basically blind 2011-08-16 15:07:47+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll have a look at the BP now - arbrandes ping me when you want to have a look at the stories for the alpha4 sprint 2011-08-16 15:08:06+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger that 2011-08-16 15:08:47+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: do you have a task for today at the end? 2011-08-16 15:13:02+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, a few requests: 1) story #211 is ready for review, maybe we can include it in alpha3. 2) Can I bump the estimated times on #334 and #335 to match spent time? Explanations in the comments. 3) I'm taking on #339, do 2 hours sound good? 2011-08-16 15:13:23+0000 <antoviaque> looking 2011-08-16 15:14:29+0000 <antoviaque> 1) sure - I'm changing it now. let me know when I can pull again the version for this sprint, I'll review that one at the same time 2011-08-16 15:15:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, sure, will do, probably after fixing #339 2011-08-16 15:15:19+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) thx! 2011-08-16 15:15:44+0000 <antoviaque> 2) no problem, good for me 2011-08-16 15:15:56+0000 <antoviaque> 3) ok too! :) 2011-08-16 15:16:00+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :) 2011-08-16 15:16:03+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-08-16 15:16:19+0000 <antoviaque> thanks to you, actually :p 2011-08-16 15:16:37+0000 <arbrandes> np :) 2011-08-16 15:16:47+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: no, i didn't find a suitable task, since arbrandes took on #339. Do you have any in mind? 2011-08-16 15:17:00+0000 <antoviaque> nope, but let me try to have a look 2011-08-16 15:17:08+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, mtyaka, are there any more bugs from alpha3? 2011-08-16 15:17:15+0000 <arbrandes> aside from #339 2011-08-16 15:17:34+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: i think i discovered one, but i am not completely sure 2011-08-16 15:18:23+0000 <antoviaque> there is http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/340 - it's not due to this sprint, but it testing allowed me to see it 2011-08-16 15:18:45+0000 <mtyaka> when i tried to simulate a player voting on a card in vote_owner state, the slot didn't change the state, as it should have, but instead the cards started shuffling 2011-08-16 15:19:04+0000 <mtyaka> if i refresh the page, it works properly, though 2011-08-16 15:19:26+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, 340 looks like another job for me, unless mtyaka wants to get his hands dirty with django ;) 2011-08-16 15:19:49+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, I fixed that in my latest commit 2011-08-16 15:20:05+0000 <antoviaque> hehe - depends on you both yep 2011-08-16 15:20:54+0000 <arbrandes> I've absolutely nothing against it, it's up to him 2011-08-16 15:21:46+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, actually i wouldn't mind doing it, but since i am not familiar with django, i think it would take me too long 2011-08-16 15:22:05+0000 <antoviaque> np, I'll leave it as a story for later on 2011-08-16 15:22:12+0000 <antoviaque> let me see if I can find something else 2011-08-16 15:22:41+0000 <antoviaque> ah maybe http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/151 2011-08-16 15:23:13+0000 <antoviaque> this is a problem the first time an animation loads, it's hard to see what's going on with half cut animations still loading 2011-08-16 15:24:06+0000 <antoviaque> but not sure when it's best to do this 2011-08-16 15:24:15+0000 <antoviaque> later on, it could mean redoing a lot of stuff 2011-08-16 15:24:26+0000 <arbrandes> looking 2011-08-16 15:24:31+0000 <antoviaque> too early, it may complicate the addition of new images/animations 2011-08-16 15:24:35+0000 lincoln_ (lincoln_) is now online 2011-08-16 15:25:30+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, maybe a ticket for simple preloading of sprite animations, with a generic "thumper"? 2011-08-16 15:25:52+0000 <arbrandes> without turning all images into sprites just yet 2011-08-16 15:26:02+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good to me 2011-08-16 15:26:31+0000 <arbrandes> (I meant "throbber") 2011-08-16 15:26:55+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, what do you think? ^ 2011-08-16 15:27:11+0000 <mtyaka> let me see... 2011-08-16 15:27:24+0000 <arbrandes> The question remains on when exactly to do it, and what to show as a background. 2011-08-16 15:27:58+0000 <arbrandes> or even *if* whe want a throbber just yet 2011-08-16 15:28:11+0000 <arbrandes> Maybe just the regular browser throbber will do 2011-08-16 15:28:39+0000 <arbrandes> But at least the animations (and possibly other images) will be loaded from the get-go. 2011-08-16 15:29:41+0000 <mtyaka> the problem is most evident with cards and png animations, right? if we can preload those, it will already be much better 2011-08-16 15:29:50+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-08-16 15:29:51+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, yup 2011-08-16 15:31:42+0000 <mtyaka> i think doing sprites at this time is too soon, we'd have to be redoing too much in the future 2011-08-16 15:32:15+0000 <arbrandes> agreed 2011-08-16 15:32:15+0000 <mtyaka> but we could try to preload the most important images 2011-08-16 15:32:34+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, wanna take that on? 2011-08-16 15:32:51+0000 <mtyaka> sure, this sounds like fun! 2011-08-16 15:32:55+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-08-16 15:33:19+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: do what seems the smartest to do at this point 2011-08-16 15:33:36+0000 <mtyaka> i'll think about it some more, than try it out to see how it works in practice 2011-08-16 15:33:51+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-08-16 15:34:33+0000 <antoviaque> I'll let you create the task when you have defined the job more precisely 2011-08-16 15:34:47+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: ok, great, thanks! 2011-08-16 15:34:54+0000 <antoviaque> thanks to you :) 2011-08-16 15:35:02+0000 <arbrandes> be back in a little while, gotta eat sumthin' 2011-08-16 15:35:08+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: bon ap : ) 2011-08-16 15:35:13+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :) 2011-08-16 18:26:33+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, 339 fixed, you might want to pull again 2011-08-16 18:26:53+0000 <arbrandes> You can also check story #211 from my master 2011-08-16 18:43:33+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, also, I'm taking on http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/340, if you would be so kind as to review the estimate... :) 2011-08-16 18:44:21+0000 <arbrandes> will be away for a couple of hours, need to fix my car's window (ack, the real world sucks) 2011-08-16 18:44:32+0000 <arbrandes> bbl 2011-08-16 22:31:41+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
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