Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-10-05.
2011-10-05 06:52:52+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online 2011-10-05 07:52:19+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-10-05 07:52:37+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: hello :) 2011-10-05 07:53:05+0000 <antoviaque> hello! 2011-10-05 07:53:21+0000 <blanchard1> when i gave you the link for angel.co yesterday, were you seeing the part with tech / additional info / pre-money valuation etc ? 2011-10-05 07:54:01+0000 <blanchard1> I wonder because it's called confidential so i'm not sure the other team members can see it. And I'd like you to see it :p 2011-10-05 07:54:05+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: ^ 2011-10-05 09:17:08+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-10-05 09:33:18+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: uups, didn't see - the "private" info was showing for me all, good : ) 2011-10-05 09:33:42+0000 <antoviaque> bbl - have to get the mailbox keys from Pit 2011-10-05 09:33:47+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: 800k seems reasonable ? ;) 2011-10-05 09:33:53+0000 <blanchard1> ok 2011-10-05 09:34:13+0000 <antoviaque> seems high, but if we find people at this price, why not : ) 2011-10-05 09:34:22+0000 <blanchard1> hehe 2011-10-05 09:58:24+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-10-05 09:59:09+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-10-05 09:59:22+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-10-05 10:03:51+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-10-05 10:08:30+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: saw the email from felix? : ) good that he seems so commited to actually do the investment - the 10K would help a lot with both development & marketing : ) 2011-10-05 10:09:23+0000 <antoviaque> was also wondering if you had any news from magalie about kickstarter 2011-10-05 10:09:35+0000 <blanchard1> yes antoviaque good news :) 2011-10-05 10:10:10+0000 <blanchard1> magalie no news and i need her help on a few other topics, so it's definitely on my todo to call her 2011-10-05 10:10:16+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-10-05 10:10:29+0000 <antoviaque> btw for felix, what's the valuation you have in mind? something similar to the one Abdoul & Francois had? 2011-10-05 10:10:49+0000 <blanchard1> well that's one of the questions i need to tackle 2011-10-05 10:11:04+0000 <blanchard1> I would be ok to use the same valuation 2011-10-05 10:11:31+0000 <antoviaque> maybe a little bit more, we progressed since them, the risk is lower and we have CS 2011-10-05 10:11:32+0000 <blanchard1> but it means Felix cannot be part of the next fund raising, we need to do a specific round for him 2011-10-05 10:11:41+0000 <blanchard1> which is hell in france 2011-10-05 10:11:46+0000 <blanchard1> and takes a month 2011-10-05 10:11:46+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-10-05 10:11:51+0000 <blanchard1> so 2011-10-05 10:12:10+0000 <antoviaque> maybe we could use the opportunity to propose to Abdoul & Francois (?) if they want to put a bit more 2011-10-05 10:12:46+0000 <blanchard1> if he's part of the next one (providing an avance en compte courant that will be converted), then the valuation will depend on negociation with future investors 2011-10-05 10:12:53+0000 <blanchard1> but it could be around 800k 2011-10-05 10:13:04+0000 <blanchard1> so Felix might find this high 2011-10-05 10:13:10+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I think so 2011-10-05 10:13:30+0000 <blanchard1> which i can understand (if they invest 200k, they get 20%, for him it would be a very small %) 2011-10-05 10:14:36+0000 <blanchard1> François, no, I really don't want to ask him more. Abdoul I don't know, why not. What do you have in mind, specific round for Felix ? 2011-10-05 10:14:46+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: ^ 2011-10-05 10:15:24+0000 <antoviaque> Seems fair to me - he would put money very quickly to keep us afloat, we need to take into account imho 2011-10-05 10:15:32+0000 <blanchard1> i agree 2011-10-05 10:16:28+0000 <blanchard1> but changing the capital is hell :) I've sent a mail to lawyer to see if there is another way to do it that would be fair for him and not too complicated for us 2011-10-05 10:17:05+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good 2011-10-05 10:18:21+0000 <blanchard1> a middle ground i see : Tell him to give the 10k as avance en compte courant (so we can have the money soon) and prepare a specific round for him with a valuation at 600 for example. Then in a month or so, his advance will be converted in shares once the capital raise is done (on a admin point of view) 2011-10-05 10:18:24+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: ^ 2011-10-05 10:19:23+0000 <blanchard1> middle grounds in the sense that we're not relying on french admin to receive the money 2011-10-05 10:20:36+0000 <antoviaque> if it goes well with him, fine with me yep 2011-10-05 11:38:10+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-10-05 11:45:59+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-10-05 11:58:38+0000 <antoviaque> hello! 2011-10-05 12:00:07+0000 <blanchard1> hola ! 2011-10-05 12:02:28+0000 <blanchard1> shall we ? 2011-10-05 12:06:32+0000 <blanchard1> Hey Farsides !!! 2011-10-05 12:06:40+0000 <blanchard1> where is erveryone :) 2011-10-05 12:06:43+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-10-05 12:06:50+0000 <antoviaque> ooops, I let the time pass 2011-10-05 12:06:51+0000 <arbrandes> I'm here, i'm here! 2011-10-05 12:06:54+0000 <antoviaque> sorry about that 2011-10-05 12:06:54+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2011-10-05 12:07:00+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting 2011-10-05 12:07:00+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-10-05 12:07:04+0000 <blanchard1> :) 2011-10-05 12:07:22+0000 <blanchard1> ok i'll start ? 2011-10-05 12:07:26+0000 <mtyaka> hello :) 2011-10-05 12:07:27+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2011-10-05 12:07:29+0000 <blanchard1> eve, yesterday : Mails to ISAI (venture capital), mail to Miniclip.com. Wrote to lawyer to discuss trademark in US and Felix' mail. Updated angel.co. Discussed with OSEO, they have some questions regarding the brazil trip (they feel we're too young a company, grrr, we'll see). Stuff for Adolfo (invoice / contract). Answered CNC some questions they had. 2011-10-05 12:07:29+0000 <eve> Done: : Mails to ISAI (venture capital), mail to Miniclip.com. Wrote to lawyer to discuss trademark in US and Felix' mail. Updated angel.co. Discussed with OSEO, they have some questions regarding the brazil trip (they feel we're too young a company, grrr, we'll see). Stuff for Adolfo (invoice / contract). Answered CNC some questions they had 2011-10-05 12:07:29+0000 <blanchard1> eve, today : prepare round table of tomorrow, answer Felix, various stuff to discuss with accountant, try to reach our lawyer. If time, continue sending mails to investors. Tomorrow afternoon and friday, school, randomly on chat. 2011-10-05 12:07:29+0000 <eve> Next: : prepare round table of tomorrow, answer Felix, various stuff to discuss with accountant, try to reach our lawyer. If time, continue sending mails to investors. Tomorrow afternoon and friday, school, randomly on chat 2011-10-05 12:07:29+0000 <blanchard1> eve, blockers : not a blocker but soon to be, I'm left with almost no money on my bank account. I'm still thinking about the post on buddypress about this money question, i need to get back to you on it. I don't know how to do this currently. I might need to ask our future investors that Farsides reimburse me part of the money i lended to the company. Also, while it's easy for me to do some school/consulting (though 2 days per wee 2011-10-05 12:07:29+0000 <eve> Blockers: : not a blocker but soon to be, I'm left with almost no money on my bank account. I'm still thinking about the post on buddypress about this money question, i need to get back to you on it. I don't know how to do this currently. I might need to ask our future investors that Farsides reimburse me part of the money i lended to the company. Also, while it's easy for me to do some school/consulting (though 2 days per wee 2011-10-05 12:07:32+0000 <antoviaque> hi mtyaka hi arbrandes! 2011-10-05 12:07:33+0000 <blanchard1> bam 2011-10-05 12:07:34+0000 <arbrandes> phew 2011-10-05 12:07:36+0000 <antoviaque> wow 2011-10-05 12:08:06+0000 <blanchard1> didn't mean to make the blocker sound dramtic sorry :) It's just that i need to think about it and get back to you, but i'll find some way 2011-10-05 12:08:43+0000 <arbrandes> blocker snippet is cut 2011-10-05 12:08:44+0000 <antoviaque> the end is cut 2011-10-05 12:08:46+0000 <arbrandes> 2 days per ... 2011-10-05 12:08:55+0000 <blanchard1> eve, blockers : not a blocker but soon to be, I'm left with almost no money on my bank account. I'm still thinking about the post on buddypress about this money question, i need to get back to you on it. I don't know how to do this currently. I might need to ask our future investors that Farsides reimburse me part of the money i lended to the company. Also, while it's easy for me to do some school/consulting (though 2 days per wee 2011-10-05 12:08:55+0000 <eve> Blockers: : not a blocker but soon to be, I'm left with almost no money on my bank account. I'm still thinking about the post on buddypress about this money question, i need to get back to you on it. I don't know how to do this currently. I might need to ask our future investors that Farsides reimburse me part of the money i lended to the company. Also, while it's easy for me to do some school/consulting (though 2 days per wee 2011-10-05 12:09:11+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1 nope, you need to just copy&paste the end :) 2011-10-05 12:09:19+0000 <blanchard1> ah ok :) 2011-10-05 12:09:25+0000 <antoviaque> there is a limit on the nb of characters on a single message 2011-10-05 12:09:41+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: too young a company for OSEO? I thought it was the principle? 2011-10-05 12:09:42+0000 <blanchard1> eve, blockers : per week is too short currently), i don't see how to sell dev services at farsides that would allow me to pay myself with a minimal amount of time to dedicate to find clients and follow-up. I need to think about this. 2011-10-05 12:09:42+0000 <eve> Blockers: : per week is too short currently), i don't see how to sell dev services at farsides that would allow me to pay myself with a minimal amount of time to dedicate to find clients and follow-up. I need to think about this 2011-10-05 12:09:48+0000 <blanchard1> there :) 2011-10-05 12:10:26+0000 <arbrandes> I was thinking about that too, blanchard1, in reference to antoviaque's "mutualism" suggestion 2011-10-05 12:10:33+0000 <blanchard1> I don't know, OSEO does not seem to like young companies. They want financial results from last FY. But it is still under discussion antoviaque 2011-10-05 12:10:35+0000 <arbrandes> The problem with that is that finding clients is hard work 2011-10-05 12:11:10+0000 <arbrandes> It's part of our "little" dilemma :) 2011-10-05 12:11:22+0000 <blanchard1> yep 2011-10-05 12:12:04+0000 <blanchard1> consulting is very well paid for little time, that would be my ideal solution (i used to do this before video games). But it takes time to setup 2011-10-05 12:12:06+0000 <antoviaque> what's blocking with the mutualist approach exactly? not sure what would be harder in finding clients together than each alone? 2011-10-05 12:12:16+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, much, MUCH harder 2011-10-05 12:12:22+0000 <arbrandes> finding clients alone is easy 2011-10-05 12:12:28+0000 <blanchard1> because when i sell 'myself' antoviaque it's ok 2011-10-05 12:12:36+0000 <blanchard1> for school and stuff like that 2011-10-05 12:12:52+0000 <arbrandes> to pay for all of us, we'd need to find big clients, and those need a lot more work 2011-10-05 12:13:16+0000 <arbrandes> Not in development, I mean, but in the pre-sale, sale, and post-sale phases 2011-10-05 12:13:28+0000 <blanchard1> true 2011-10-05 12:13:56+0000 <arbrandes> Basically, all the work blanchard1 is currently doing towards finding investors, would need to be refocused on finding clients 2011-10-05 12:14:04+0000 <arbrandes> It's at least as hard 2011-10-05 12:14:16+0000 <blanchard1> and i really lack time currently between farsides and earning a living outside 2011-10-05 12:15:06+0000 <blanchard1> well, personnally i still have a month cash in front of me so we don't have to settle now, but i need to get back to you with proposals antoviaque arbrandes 2011-10-05 12:15:52+0000 <arbrandes> I know because I recently followed closely one such process: tempodemulher.com (you know, where my girlfriend works) wanted to rework their backend, and put out the word. The agency / software house that won the job did it with both a very pretty powerpoint and a very detailed specification. We'd have to do that for each client. 2011-10-05 12:16:29+0000 <arbrandes> (too bad this was before the mutualism idea, I could've tried to sell Farsides, heheheh) 2011-10-05 12:16:38+0000 <mtyaka> yeah... that's true 2011-10-05 12:16:51+0000 <mtyaka> the company i worked before didn't have very big clients... 2011-10-05 12:17:09+0000 <mtyaka> ... but there was still a lot of work dealing with them and finding new ones 2011-10-05 12:17:20+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, ok - bad idea then : ) 2011-10-05 12:17:39+0000 <blanchard1> no, maybe not antoviaque, but give me a week to think over it 2011-10-05 12:17:41+0000 <arbrandes> "Big" is relative - they need to be big enough to support Farsides. 2011-10-05 12:17:48+0000 <mtyaka> if we can find customers who would pay well, it's a great idea :) 2011-10-05 12:18:07+0000 <arbrandes> Agreed, I don't think it's a bad idea at all, it's just that we'd have to gear up for it. 2011-10-05 12:18:07+0000 <mtyaka> but it won't be easy finding them 2011-10-05 12:18:09+0000 <blanchard1> yes arbrandes support salary of the devs and my salary, that's quite some overhead :p 2011-10-05 12:18:33+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe, blanchard1, yup :) 2011-10-05 12:19:13+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: if we find some 10-20K contracts, we could actually be competitive imho 2011-10-05 12:20:09+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1 for example http://www.prestataires.com/ 2011-10-05 12:20:19+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: maybe, yep. I'm going to knock at ubisoft's door, that would be my first shot. If a publisher can be interested by what i can sell, it should be them ;) 2011-10-05 12:20:33+0000 <antoviaque> yep : ) 2011-10-05 12:21:14+0000 <antoviaque> ok, next then : ) mtyaka? 2011-10-05 12:21:18+0000 <blanchard1> but i have a limited amount to dedicate to that if i want to do the rest right (just making sure i make myself clear) 2011-10-05 12:21:42+0000 <arbrandes> understood, blanchard1 2011-10-05 12:22:07+0000 <mtyaka> ok, i'll go next... 2011-10-05 12:22:17+0000 <antoviaque> of course - think about how it could be organised maybe, and for the work itself we can see how to split it (if we want to try at all at the end) 2011-10-05 12:22:27+0000 <mtyaka> btw, if i can help in any way in this rather unfortunate situation, i'll be happy to 2011-10-05 12:22:34+0000 <blanchard1> thx mtyaka :) 2011-10-05 12:22:43+0000 <antoviaque> thanks :) 2011-10-05 12:22:47+0000 <blanchard1> i appreciate ! 2011-10-05 12:22:48+0000 <antoviaque> Btw, not sure if you saw in the chatlog/ML this morning, but Felix (who wrote to us some time ago about investing in Farsides) wants to proceed and put the 10K he talked about in the coming weeks. :D 2011-10-05 12:23:01+0000 <antoviaque> He still has some questions about the details (valuation, conditions, etc.) but it's looking good : ) Hopefully this will give us the air we need for dev/marketing before the larger round. 2011-10-05 12:23:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap I was about to talk about this 2011-10-05 12:23:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> to ask* 2011-10-05 12:23:16+0000 <mtyaka> cool :) 2011-10-05 12:23:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> this is good news!! 2011-10-05 12:23:45+0000 <arbrandes> Excellent news 2011-10-05 12:23:49+0000 <antoviaque> doesn't solve blanchard1' issue, but it would definitely be of tremenous help for farsides - definitely a very good news : ) 2011-10-05 12:23:58+0000 <blanchard1> yes as i wrote in my report, I'll send him a mail today. It's excellent news 2011-10-05 12:25:07+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday I didn't have time to work on CS 2011-10-05 12:25:07+0000 <eve> Done: I didn't have time to work on CS 2011-10-05 12:25:09+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I will work on #514 (investigate cross-browser solution for playing sounds on demand) 2011-10-05 12:25:09+0000 <eve> Next: I will work on #514 (investigate cross-browser solution for playing sounds on demand) 2011-10-05 12:25:10+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None 2011-10-05 12:25:10+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-10-05 12:25:16+0000 <antoviaque> thx! 2011-10-05 12:25:30+0000 <antoviaque> good luck with that one : ) I get the feeling this is going to be tricky ;) 2011-10-05 12:25:43+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: next? 2011-10-05 12:25:45+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday discussed sprint, and this morning assigned bananas and created tasks. 2011-10-05 12:25:45+0000 <eve> Done: discussed sprint, and this morning assigned bananas and created tasks 2011-10-05 12:25:45+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today continue on #200. 2011-10-05 12:25:45+0000 <eve> Next: continue on #200 2011-10-05 12:25:45+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers none! 2011-10-05 12:25:45+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-10-05 12:25:53+0000 <arbrandes> oops 2011-10-05 12:25:57+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, fast as ever : ) 2011-10-05 12:26:01+0000 <arbrandes> #200 is the game notification issue 2011-10-05 12:26:12+0000 <arbrandes> ;) 2011-10-05 12:26:37+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe 2011-10-05 12:26:45+0000 <blanchard1> :) 2011-10-05 12:26:48+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the details ;p 2011-10-05 12:27:14+0000 <arbrandes> As far as the sprint goes, antoviaque, if mtyaka and you can take on the stories besides #200/201, it'll fit 2011-10-05 12:27:56+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I'll post mine: 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today #479: â mark and envelope are not showing for Player view, #456 Players can invite others through Facebook 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <eve> Next: #479: â mark and envelope are not showing for Player view, #456 Players can invite others through Facebook 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers Would be good to confirm that you don't receive emails from cardstories.org anymore - seems ok now, but would deserve some more testing 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <eve> Blockers: Would be good to confirm that you don't receive emails from cardstories.org anymore - seems ok now, but would deserve some more testing 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Card Stories: review of alpha9, design polish fixes - #448: the text of the story is partially hidden when too long, #472: Wait for players to vote button is distorted, #474: Change of text on the Game Master's view - blue bubble 2, #475: Delete all the periods from the titles on the blue boxes, #476: Change of text on the Game Master's view - blue bubble 3 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <eve> antoviaque: I don't know who yesterday Card Stories: review of alpha9, design polish fixes - #448: the text of the story is 2011-10-05 12:28:05+0000 <arbrandes> Specifically, Facebook invitations (#456), the set of design fixes (#484), and playing the sound (#500) 2011-10-05 12:28:15+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Card Stories: review of alpha9, design polish fixes - #448: the text of the story is partially hidden when too long, #472: Wait for players to vote button is distorted, #474: Change of text on the Game Master's view - blue bubble 2, #475: Delete all the periods from the titles on the blue boxes, #476: Change of text on the Game Master's view - blue bubble 3 2011-10-05 12:28:15+0000 <eve> antoviaque: I don't know who yesterday Card Stories: review of alpha9, design polish fixes - #448: the text of the story is 2011-10-05 12:27:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday #478: Transparent box for the vote phase is not transparent enough, #480: Cards are too small on the vote phase, #481: When you vote, the card should be 191px W, #482: Change on the font of the box YOU VOTED - Player's view, plus some additional visual fixes 2011-10-05 12:28:17+0000 <eve> Done: #478: Transparent box for the vote phase is not transparent enough, #480: Cards are too small on the vote phase, #481: When you vote, the card should be 191px W, #482: Change on the font of the box YOU VOTED - Player's view, plus some additional visual fixes 2011-10-05 12:28:21+0000 <arbrandes> whoa!! 2011-10-05 12:28:32+0000 <arbrandes> congrats, you've been busy!! :) 2011-10-05 12:28:42+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, it feels good to work on small tasks like that, it looks like I've done a lot :) 2011-10-05 12:28:43+0000 <mtyaka> haha 2011-10-05 12:28:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-10-05 12:29:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thanks for doing the fixes 2011-10-05 12:29:08+0000 <arbrandes> heheheh, awesome 2011-10-05 12:29:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it will look much better you'll see 2011-10-05 12:29:12+0000 <mtyaka> well done, regardless of the size of the tasks 2011-10-05 12:29:17+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-10-05 12:29:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> exactly 2011-10-05 12:29:29+0000 <antoviaque> I have one to finish today, and the FB post hopefully 2011-10-05 12:29:55+0000 <antoviaque> I hope I didn't break too much in the process, will be good to do a good round of testing at the end of this week 2011-10-05 12:30:12+0000 <antoviaque> something else for today? 2011-10-05 12:30:37+0000 <arbrandes> not for me, thanks 2011-10-05 12:30:47+0000 <blanchard1> i'm good ! 2011-10-05 12:30:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> for me its the same since monday so.. I'm good too 2011-10-05 12:31:05+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-10-05 12:31:10+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting 2011-10-05 12:31:10+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-10-05 12:31:10+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/487661 2011-10-05 12:37:27+0000 <antoviaque> fyi I'm going to try creating an account on prestataires.com, to see if we can get leads with a few French companies this way or not - ok? 2011-10-05 12:40:26+0000 <arbrandes> All good, as far as I'm concerned. :) 2011-10-05 12:41:48+0000 <arbrandes> bbl, gotta go downtown 2011-10-05 12:42:50+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: i had added this to my todo list but please be my guest :) 2011-10-05 12:47:28+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: ok, created the account, and put it on your email - I'll let you have a look, let me know if you want to work on this together, happy to help 2011-10-05 12:47:40+0000 <blanchard1> thx antoviaque 2011-10-05 13:17:59+0000 blanchard2 (blanchard2) is now online 2011-10-05 15:04:18+0000 blanchard2 (blanchard2) is now offline 2011-10-05 16:19:36+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-10-05 16:35:25+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline 2011-10-05 18:15:47+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-10-05 19:05:55+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-10-05 20:41:01+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-10-05 21:27:34+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-10-05 21:58:55+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-10-05 22:34:06+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-10-05 22:55:24+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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