Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-11-10.
2011-11-10 07:49:05+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-11-10 09:30:59+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-11-10 09:53:49+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-11-10 11:54:01+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-11-10 12:13:36+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-11-10 13:30:14+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting 2011-11-10 13:30:14+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-11-10 13:30:16+0000 <antoviaque> hello : ) 2011-11-10 13:30:35+0000 <mtyaka> hello :) 2011-11-10 13:30:41+0000 <antoviaque> hey mtyaka : ) 2011-11-10 13:30:52+0000 <antoviaque> I'll start today 2011-11-10 13:30:59+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Discussions about the current state of card stories, sync'ed the redmine with dachary's repository, created G+ page for Card Stories (cf https://plus.google.com/b/102746234249009071866/102746234249009071866/posts ), Plebia (torrent identification success rate indicators) 2011-11-10 13:30:59+0000 <eve> Done: Discussions about the current state of card stories, sync'ed the redmine with dachary's repository, created G+ page for Card Stories (cf https://plus.google.com/b/102746234249009071866/102746234249009071866/posts ), Plebia (torrent identification success rate indicators) 2011-11-10 13:30:59+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Discuss internship with MCMic, Plebia (automated processing of torrent identification through unit tests for faster reporting) 2011-11-10 13:30:59+0000 <eve> Next: Discuss internship with MCMic, Plebia (automated processing of torrent identification through unit tests for faster reporting) 2011-11-10 13:30:59+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None 2011-11-10 13:31:00+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-11-10 13:31:30+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz is on her way back from a meeting, she may not make it in time 2011-11-10 13:31:42+0000 <mtyaka> okay 2011-11-10 13:31:45+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: want to go next? 2011-11-10 13:31:50+0000 <mtyaka> I have nothing to report today 2011-11-10 13:31:55+0000 <antoviaque> not sure if it will be more than the two of us today :) 2011-11-10 13:31:58+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-11-10 13:32:09+0000 <mtyaka> Had less time yesterday than I expected... 2011-11-10 13:32:10+0000 <antoviaque> all good for the countdown? 2011-11-10 13:32:11+0000 <blanchard1> yep sorry i'm not there today 2011-11-10 13:32:16+0000 <mtyaka> so didn't do anything 2011-11-10 13:32:16+0000 <blanchard1> hi, still :) 2011-11-10 13:32:21+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: ok, hello ;p 2011-11-10 13:32:32+0000 <mtyaka> will work on countdown today, no problems otherwise 2011-11-10 13:32:38+0000 <mtyaka> hi blanchard1 :) 2011-11-10 13:32:39+0000 <antoviaque> okidok 2011-11-10 13:32:53+0000 <dachary> eve: today nothing 2011-11-10 13:32:53+0000 <eve> Next: nothing 2011-11-10 13:32:54+0000 <dachary> eve: yesterday complete analyze logs http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/582 , fixed Request.finish called on a request after its connection was lost http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/559 and created mail notification modifies the game http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/586 . Review tickets worked on up to october 18th #441 and #447, #571, #528, #526, #534, #505. Discuss about the future directions: bug fixing. Duplicates #533, #531. 2011-11-10 13:32:54+0000 <eve> Done: complete analyze logs http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/582 , fixed Request.finish called on a request after its connection was lost http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/559 and created mail notification modifies the game http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/586 . Review tickets worked on up to october 18th #441 and #447, #571, #528, #526, #534, #505. Discuss about the future directions: bug fixing. Duplicates #533, #531 2011-11-10 13:32:54+0000 <dachary> eve: blockers none 2011-11-10 13:32:54+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-11-10 13:33:17+0000 * antoviaque reading 2011-11-10 13:33:25+0000 <antoviaque> a lot of stuff, gratz dachary : ) 2011-11-10 13:33:43+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's what has been said yesterday and it actually happened ;-) 2011-11-10 13:33:59+0000 <mtyaka> nice :) 2011-11-10 13:34:11+0000 <mtyaka> request.finish fix will make email tracebacks useful again 2011-11-10 13:34:24+0000 <mtyaka> or is that "traceback emails" 2011-11-10 13:34:59+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep, I had 15 of those emails sitting in a corner, too big to keep an eye on : ) 2011-11-10 13:36:00+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: "it's what has been said yesterday and it actually happened" => this in itself is impressive btw :) 2011-11-10 13:36:40+0000 <dachary> :-) 2011-11-10 13:36:47+0000 * dachary feels good 2011-11-10 13:37:23+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: while you were in the tracebacks, did you see any that deserve a new bug report? I see that you put some in the bug log on #582 2011-11-10 13:37:43+0000 <dachary> just http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/586 2011-11-10 13:38:09+0000 <dachary> but since mail is no longer active it probably is low priority 2011-11-10 13:38:38+0000 <antoviaque> I see - good news then : ) 2011-11-10 13:39:03+0000 <dachary> yes, there are no pending traceback requiring immediate action 2011-11-10 13:39:37+0000 <antoviaque> cool, I was worried there would be a few critical ones lost in the middle of the logs 2011-11-10 13:39:56+0000 <antoviaque> ok, something else for today? 2011-11-10 13:40:10+0000 <dachary> yes, it's good news. The "Finished" traceback was spamming badly but it's gone now. 2011-11-10 13:41:13+0000 <antoviaque> since we're getting to the end of the technical bugs, we'll be able to focus on the "user" bugs/polish, there is plenty there too 2011-11-10 13:42:20+0000 <antoviaque> ok, thanks everyone! 2011-11-10 13:42:29+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz will probably post her report when she's back 2011-11-10 13:42:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting 2011-11-10 13:42:36+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-11-10 13:42:36+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/505747 2011-11-10 14:37:30+0000 <dachary> Das Kafe ist Vertieg 2011-11-10 16:23:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hellooo everyone! 2011-11-10 16:23:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> sorry I wasn't here for the meeting I got lost 2011-11-10 16:23:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and then when I came back I started playing with people on CS 2011-11-10 17:09:58+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-11-10 18:41:41+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: hello, are you here? 2011-11-10 18:41:58+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep 2011-11-10 18:42:06+0000 <mtyaka> great :) 2011-11-10 18:42:09+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-11-10 18:42:21+0000 <mtyaka> I'm working on the countdown, I'd like to discuss it a bit 2011-11-10 18:42:25+0000 <antoviaque> sure 2011-11-10 18:43:15+0000 <mtyaka> First of all, it seems to be taking me quite some time... I spent about 6 hours already, and there's still quite some work to do. Does this feel ok? 2011-11-10 18:44:03+0000 <antoviaque> no problem - I was expecting it to take some time, even with the existing parts already in the code 2011-11-10 18:44:16+0000 <antoviaque> no worries :) 2011-11-10 18:44:20+0000 <mtyaka> Ok, good :) 2011-11-10 18:45:06+0000 <mtyaka> Next thing is the interface... we need to decide how this will look, tartarugafeliz will probably also need to help a bit. 2011-11-10 18:45:33+0000 <antoviaque> yep, agreed 2011-11-10 18:46:00+0000 <antoviaque> I think we can do it like the loading screen - something minimal that does the job, then tartarugafeliz does a pass to skin it - sounds good? 2011-11-10 18:46:49+0000 <mtyaka> Yes, I agree about the skin itself, but there's still some things we need to decide... 2011-11-10 18:47:04+0000 <mtyaka> Since the countdown itself can last from 1 minute up to a whole day... so displaying only remaining seconds (which is easiest to implement) probably won't work well 2011-11-10 18:47:26+0000 <antoviaque> yep : ) 2011-11-10 18:48:25+0000 <mtyaka> so what do you suggest? 2011-11-10 18:48:36+0000 <antoviaque> hmm 2011-11-10 18:48:40+0000 <mtyaka> 1 day, 3 hours, 5 seconds? 2011-11-10 18:49:42+0000 <mtyaka> and if remaining time is less than one day just "13 hours, 24 seconds"... 2011-11-10 18:49:48+0000 <mtyaka> and of course i forgot the minutes :) 2011-11-10 18:49:57+0000 <antoviaque> could work yep 2011-11-10 18:50:10+0000 <antoviaque> maybe just the highest (ie "1 day", or "6 hours", etc.) could work too, would be simpler to read 2011-11-10 18:50:34+0000 <mtyaka> indeed, that would be best... 2011-11-10 18:50:45+0000 <mtyaka> when it is less than a minute it starts showing seconds 2011-11-10 18:50:50+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-11-10 18:51:05+0000 <mtyaka> ok, we got that sorted out... 2011-11-10 18:51:25+0000 <mtyaka> And where will the countdown be deisplayed? 2011-11-10 18:51:37+0000 <mtyaka> on the "go to vote" modal dialog? 2011-11-10 18:51:46+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-11-10 18:51:51+0000 <mtyaka> ok 2011-11-10 18:52:20+0000 <mtyaka> The last thing is how does the dropdown to change the timeout work? 2011-11-10 18:52:38+0000 <mtyaka> is the dropdown also on the dialog? 2011-11-10 18:53:16+0000 <mtyaka> and when can you change the time? only before the countdown starts (when the game is not ready to move forward yet) or all the time? 2011-11-10 18:53:21+0000 <antoviaque> that's what I had in mind, but if you have a better idea np 2011-11-10 18:53:23+0000 <mtyaka> event when countdown is already in progress? 2011-11-10 18:53:41+0000 <mtyaka> i don't really have a better idea... 2011-11-10 18:53:57+0000 <antoviaque> no problem with me on allowing to change it all the time 2011-11-10 18:54:30+0000 <mtyaka> but still ok if it can only be changed before it starts? 2011-11-10 18:54:44+0000 <mtyaka> this will probably be easier to implement, but I may be wrong 2011-11-10 18:54:50+0000 <antoviaque> hmmm 2011-11-10 18:55:31+0000 <antoviaque> there may be some cases where that would prevent the counter from being changed at all actually, if the players vote quickly 2011-11-10 18:55:46+0000 <antoviaque> but not sure how big a deal it would be 2011-11-10 18:56:10+0000 <antoviaque> if it's much easier go for only before it starts, otherwise would be good to leave that option open 2011-11-10 18:56:56+0000 <mtyaka> I agree... 2011-11-10 18:57:48+0000 <mtyaka> I still feel the dropdown will be a bit strange, but I don't have any better idea at the moment 2011-11-10 18:58:09+0000 <mtyaka> So I guess I'll just implement it and later we will see how it works out 2011-11-10 18:58:17+0000 <antoviaque> I had in mind to actually display the countdown in the dropdown 2011-11-10 18:58:20+0000 <antoviaque> if it makes sense 2011-11-10 18:58:25+0000 <antoviaque> ie you see something like: 2011-11-10 18:58:38+0000 <antoviaque> "Time remaining: <37 seconds>" 2011-11-10 18:58:54+0000 <antoviaque> with 37 seconds being the drop down, which shows the available values for the author 2011-11-10 18:59:21+0000 <antoviaque> this way it prevents from creating another logical block that the user has to understand 2011-11-10 18:59:31+0000 <mtyaka> hmm.... 2011-11-10 19:00:02+0000 <antoviaque> feels not right? 2011-11-10 19:00:05+0000 <mtyaka> so before the countdown starts it says "Time remaining: <60 seconds>" (becaues 60 seconds is the default) 2011-11-10 19:00:11+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-11-10 19:00:16+0000 <mtyaka> and then the countdown starts 59, 58 ... 2011-11-10 19:00:34+0000 <mtyaka> and then the user changes his mind, he wants the countdown to last an hour 2011-11-10 19:00:59+0000 <mtyaka> hmm.. ok it might work 2011-11-10 19:01:38+0000 <antoviaque> if you see something that works better while you're in the middle of it, don't hesitate - it's usually the best moment to have all the constraints in mind :) 2011-11-10 19:02:24+0000 <mtyaka> Heh, I am not good at UI design... 2011-11-10 19:02:45+0000 <mtyaka> I can tell you when something isn't working, but I don't really know how to judge whether something will work before I try it :) 2011-11-10 19:03:09+0000 <mtyaka> I think you're idea is not bad, actually 2011-11-10 19:03:48+0000 <antoviaque> cool : ) and yep, in any case, we'll quickly see if it doesn't work when we start using it :) 2011-11-10 19:04:21+0000 <mtyaka> Thanks, antoviaque! I think that's all I need for now. Back to work :) 2011-11-10 19:04:29+0000 <antoviaque> good luck :D 2011-11-10 19:04:41+0000 <mtyaka> hehe 2011-11-10 21:56:37+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2011-11-10 22:07:57+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-11-10 23:17:00+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
