Tout à fait d'accord, Matthew.

I would add that "trueness" is not just a question of intonation when notes are fretted. A false string never sounds in tune even as an open string, and the pattern of vibration makes it buzz against the frets. If your string heights are high enough that this isn't a problem, they're too high.

I don't know whether the samples I had from Mimmo some time ago are the same as the current production, but I thought they were too elastic. He did say he was going to make a less elastic version for the thinner strings, but I don't know whether he's implemented this idea or not (can you tell us, Mimmo?). I'm slightly puzzled by the suggestion that the less elastic version would have a duller or darker sound, I would almost expect the opposite - as a comparison, the KF strings are very stiff but sound bright.

It would be such a shame if after all his efforts we end up with a string which is not as good as the old loaded gut. Actually the new string needs to be better than that in terms of trueness.

Best wishes to all,

Martin

On 03/02/2017 09:06, Matthew Daillie wrote:
Dear Mimmo,
In my opinion there are two factors which need to be given priority even before 
judging the sound of a string. Firstly it has to be true (with no problems of 
intonation going up the fingerboard for stopped strings) and secondly it has to 
be playable: on a well-made and well set up lute, it must not catch on the nut, 
buzz, hit a neighbouring string, hit against the fingerboard, or cause any 
other extraneous noises. If a string has the potential to sound wonderful but 
does not meet these two criteria, then it is of no use whatsoever.
Once that is established, obviously players want a string with a full-bodied 
and stable tone, enough sustain to make voice-leading a pleasure and the 
instrument to sing to the best of its ability and sufficient power to provide 
convincing projection and resonance.
Personally I am looking for a warm and sweet tone with precise fundamentals and 
enough overtones to make the timbre rich and variable.
Oh dear, that does sound like a holy grail doesn't it?
Fingers crossed!
Best
Matthew




On Feb 3, 2017, at 8:29, Mimmo Peruffo <[email protected]> wrote:

   Thank you for the suggestion Arto.
   Unfortunately i cannot do it
   I already image how confuse the thing will be with the customers.
   This mean the eford to mannage twice products and honestly I do not
   like to add cofusion in the factory and with customers already stressed
   by me!

   I should do a choice and in fast time: is it better a more elastic
   string like these are (whith problems related to the fact that maybe
   stretch tooo much and that the sound is too bright) or it is better to
   switch to a less elastic plastic support with the advantage that it
   stretch less, the sound is darker and with less sustain?
   Hard to do the choice: both solutions are ok; i already tried the
   second option that is similar to the loaded gut strings
   Even Anthony Bailes suggested me the second option.

   Strings or not to strings? this is the question

   ah ah
   (my poor english at work)
   Ciao
   Mimmo

   ps
   which are your suggestion guys?



   -----Messaggio originale-----
   From: Arto Wikla
   Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM
   To: Mimmo Peruffo ; [email protected]
   Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

   Dear Mimmo,

   if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I
   hope (and wish and urge ;-) ) that you keep also the original elastic
   version in your repertoire! They work exceptionally well on my Harz
   arclute, great stuff.

   And big thanks for your invaluable work!

   Arto

   On 02/02/17 14:03, Mimmo Peruffo wrote:
Well, seeing this post I have the idea to switch to these stiffer
   ones.
at the end of the day they are closer to those loaded strings made of
   gut.
I will do some samples in advance.
Mimmo


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