Hi Piotr,

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Matt Rogers <ma...@kde.org> wrote:

> Hi Piotr,
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Piotr Legiecki <piot...@ams.edu.pl> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder if you know the Surfulator program http://www.surfulater.com/?
> > It is very nice kind of outliner/knowledge soft. It is of course only
> > windows/commercial product. among its rich features I'd like to point to
> > some very useful ones:
> > - tagging
> > - date aware
>
> Never heard of it. Basket already has a limited form of tagging though.
>
Moreover, we are working on Nepomuk integration and at the moment we are
able to store and retrieve Creation/Modification Dates, Tags and Titles as
metadata in Nepomuk.

>
> >
> > If we compare basket (or any other outliner) to photo management (like
> > digikam) software we notice they are very similar. They both manage data
> > (and it does not matter that one is image and the other one text) and
> > the tasks to search for specific item are generally the same: you may
> > search by:
> > a) name
> > b) date
> > c) tags
> > Those are the main (IMHO) search categories.
> >
> > So if digikam has all those nice and useful features why not to have
> > them in basket?
> >
>
Currently you can search using Tags and Titles (Names) of notes in KRunner
of KDE. (KRuuner is the application that is executed when you press Alt+F2
in KDE)
At the moment, the only feature I would love to see a volunteer for
implementing, is a comprehensive search window in the Basket. IMHO, we are
storing enough metadata to start implementing this feature.

>
> Because nobody wrote them yet and the digikam team is about 4 times
> bigger than the basket team.
>
> > Actually basket has good staring points to make it possible. It has of
> > course very nice live search by names. It has nice tagging support, but
> > not used to its full potential. It lacks date awareness.
> >
>
> What is this whole date awareness thing you talk about? You've brought
> it up twice now and have yet to explain what it is.
>
> > Why I mentioned surfulator above? Because it implemented all those
> > features and they work great together!
> >
>
> So? It doesn't really matter unless they're implemented in Basket, right?
> :)
>
> > It is done in very similar fashion as on digikam (or other wise photo
> > management soft excluding picassa).
> > The main (name) tree (with folders/subfolders/items) is done in
> > classical hierarchy just like in basket. The date tree shows items in
> > chronological order and tags tree show the items grouped by tags. Simple
> > and very effective. Just try it. Only one click away from those three
> > views of our notes.
> >
> >  From my (as a user of basket 1.x) point of view basket has all the
> > information required to manage the items in a way mentioned above. We
> > have time stamps with every note, we have tags. So it is only a matter
> > of using their potential.
> >
> > I hope I have explained it clearly?
> >
>
> No, actually, you haven't - at least not enough for me to understand
> what you're getting at. IMHO, you do more comparing to Surfulator when
> it would have been more useful to describe how those features should
> work in regards to Basket.
>
> > Regards
> > P.
> >
>
>
> Thanks
> --
> Matt
>

Cheers,
Amir
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