Dave, everything's O.K. as long as it isn't purchased.  If I had made the Pfeiffer
Field Spray myself, then it wouldn't have to be registered.  Here are two emails
I got from Randy, my nemesis yesterday andtoday.  Here is Title 22,
Chapter 22-2205 Registration, Chapter 22-2218 Violations, Chapter 22-2219
Remedies for Violations from Idaho Statutes. Myconclusion is that I will have
to jump through the hoop.  Hugh Courtney can't afford to.  I will attempt to collect
$5.00 from 19 families that liv on the road to be donated to the Josephine Porter
Institute for registration of Pfeiffer Field Spray for use on Rapid Lightning Road.
Otherwise, I will have to pay the fee myself or let it all go to waste.  That would
be ashamed.

Randy likes to make me jump through hoops and he creates these situations
whenever he can.  Out west, people are much more nasty over who's in charge.
They are really hostile to environmentalists.

I am now the Secretary of the Weed Committee.  I used to be the Secretary of
the Democratic Central Committee.  They will take all your hours of work, but
you are not entitled to have your point-of-view actualized in the system.  If you
try to act politically, you will find that there are rules which will stop you from
"winning."  It's a closed system with an unlevel playing field.

I'm just trying to keep our road from being sprayed with Curtail (2,4-D and
Clopyralid) and Escort.  To do this, we residents have to do the job ourselves.
We have a cost-share grant because they injured a chemically sensitive resident
when they sneaked in and sprayed.  The up side of Glenn's hyper sensitive
reaction is that it showed graphically to the road residents that the herbicide is
dangerous to humans.

I used to be a solar groupie starting in 1979.  I went to all the International Solar
Energy Society meetings and listened to the inventors give presentations on all
facets of solar energy.  At a certain point, the big corporations made each one an
offer they couldn't refuse for their product/invention and it was either suppressed
or changed.  It was a heady time for me.  I guess I am drawn to inventors.  I
hope this does not happen to you all.  Somehow, Hugh Courtney and the
traditional Biodynamic group avoided this by a combination of secretiveness and
a low profile.  I hate to register Pfeiffer Field Spray because it gives them all the
details.  I respect Hugh Courtney and I don't want to cause any changes in what
JPI is doing.  He is very concerned about not wanting to be materialistic.

Merla
 
 

Merla,
I don't think you understand the problem. I personally don't care what you use on your project, but what ever
you use should be both safe and effective.

It is against the law to use any pesticide, ferterlizer soil ammendant, of what ever unless it
is registered with the Idaho Dept. of Agrticulture.

It would be pretty stupid for the Weed Board to OK the use of  money from the Dept. of Ag.  to use an illegal
product.
Furthermore you seem to worry a whole lot about how bad chemicals are, but seem to forget that some
biological agents,  can be devastating to agriclulture.
Randy

He softens in the second email, but the answer is the same

Merla,
I finally got back to your email and read it again...
No I do not think that we can, or should pay for the registration of the
product. If the company selling it has enough confidence in the stuff
and they want to sell it in Idaho they can register it.
If you have been using it on the road, please stop. You are breaking the
law.  If in any way shape of form it looks like the board is condoning
the   use of an unregistered product we can all get in deep trouble.

Bye Randy

                                 TITLE  22
                       AGRICULTURE AND HORTICULTURE
                                  CHAPTER 22
                          SOIL AND PLANT AMENDMENTS
    22-2205.  PRODUCTS -- REGISTRATION REQUIRED. (1) Each separately
identifiable soil amendment or plant amendment product shall be registered
before being distributed in this state. The application for registration shall
be submitted to the department on a form furnished by the department, and
shall be accompanied by a nonrefundable fee of one hundred dollars ($100) per
product and a label of each product, unless a current label is on file at the
department. Companies planning to mix customer formula soil amendments or
plant amendments shall include the statement "customer formula mixes" under
the "products" column on the registration application form. Upon approval by
the department, a certificate of registration shall be furnished to the
applicant.
    (2)  In determining whether a label statement of an ingredient is
appropriate, the department may require the submission of a written statement
describing the method of laboratory analysis used, the source of all
ingredient material and any reference material relied on to support the label
statement or guarantee of the ingredients.
    (3)  Upon receipt of a complete application for registration of a product,
the department may test and analyze an official sample of the product to
determine whether the contents of the official sample conform to the label. In
his discretion, the director may also require an applicant for registration of
a soil amendment or a plant amendment to submit any data concerning the
efficacy or safety of the product for its intended use.
    (4)  Refusal to register, denial, suspension.
    (a)  If it appears to the director that composition of the soil amendment
    or plant amendment does not warrant the proposed claims for it, or if the
    soil amendment or plant amendment and its labeling or other material
    required to be submitted do not comply with this chapter or rules adopted
    under this chapter, the director shall notify the applicant of the manner
    in which the soil amendment or plant amendment labeling or other material
    required to be submitted fails to comply with this chapter so as to give
    the  applicant an opportunity to make the necessary corrections. If the
    applicant does not make the required changes within ninety (90) days from
    the receipt of the notice, the director may refuse to register the soil
    amendment or plant amendment. The applicant may request a hearing as
    provided in the administrative procedure act, chapter 52, title 67, Idaho
    Code.
    (b)  When the director determines that a soil amendment or plant amendment
    or its labeling does not comply with this chapter or rules adopted under
    this chapter, or when necessary to prevent unreasonable adverse effects on
    the environment, the director may refuse to register or may suspend,
    revoke or modify the registration of the soil amendment or plant amendment
    in accordance with the provisions of the administrative procedure act,
    chapter 52, title 67, Idaho Code.
    (5)  Registrations are effective through the last day of the calendar year
in which they are issued. If a registration is being renewed, the director may
suspend the requirement that a soil amendment or plant amendment be analyzed
if there is no material change in the label for the product.
    (6)  If the application for renewal of the soil amendment or plant
amendment registration provided for in this section is not submitted before
February 1 of any one (1) year, a penalty of ten dollars ($10.00) per product
shall be assessed and added to the original fee.  The applicant shall pay the
penalty before the renewal soil amendment or plant amendment registration may
be issued.
    (7)  Any waste-derived soil amendment or waste-derived plant amendment
distributed as a single ingredient product or blended with other soil
amendments or plant amendment ingredients must be identified as "waste-derived
soil amendment or plant amendment" by the applicant in the application for
registration.
    (8)  An applicant applying to register a waste-derived soil amendment or
plant amendment shall state in the application the concentration of metals or
metalloids including, but not limited to, arsenic (As), cadmium (Cd), mercury
(Hg), lead (Pb), and selenium (Se). The applicant shall provide a laboratory
report or other documentation verifying the levels of the metals or metalloids
in the waste-derived soil amendment or plant amendment.
    (9)  A distributor is not required to register a soil amendment or plant
amendment product that is already registered under this chapter, so long as
the label remains unchanged.

       Idaho Statutes
                                 TITLE  22
                       AGRICULTURE AND HORTICULTURE
                                  CHAPTER 22
                          SOIL AND PLANT AMENDMENTS
    22-2218.  VIOLATIONS. It is unlawful to:
    (1)  Distribute a misbranded soil amendment or plant amendment;
    (2)  Fail, refuse or neglect to place upon or attach to each container of
distributed soil amendment or plant amendment a label containing the
information required by this chapter;
    (3)  Fail, refuse or neglect to deliver to a purchaser of bulk soil
amendments or plant amendments, a statement containing the information
required by this chapter;
    (4)  Distribute a soil amendment or plant amendment which has not been
registered with the department;
    (5)  Distribute a soil amendment or plant amendment containing viable
noxious weed seeds, as specified in section 22-2215(3), Idaho Code;
    (6)  Distribute an adulterated soil amendment or plant amendment;
    (7)  Distribute a soil amendment or plant amendment weighing less than
that which it is purported to weigh;
    (8)  Distribute a soil amendment or plant amendment different from the
guaranteed analysis purported on the label;
    (9)  Fail or refuse to provide, keep or maintain records and information
as required by this chapter;
    (10) Fail to stop distribution of a soil amendment or plant amendment
product under a stop-sale order as authorized under section 22-2217, Idaho
Code; or
    (11) Fail to disclose to the director, when requested, sources of
potentially deleterious components, which components shall be established by
rule.

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                                TITLE  22
                       AGRICULTURE AND HORTICULTURE
                                  CHAPTER 22
                          SOIL AND PLANT AMENDMENTS
    22-2219.  REMEDIES FOR VIOLATION. (1) A person convicted of violating this
chapter or the rules adopted under this chapter or who impedes, obstructs,
hinders or otherwise prevents or attempts to prevent the director or a duly
authorized agent from the performance of his duty in connection with this
chapter, is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be fined not more than five
hundred dollars ($500) for the first violation and not more than one thousand
five hundred dollars ($1,500) for a subsequent violation. In all prosecutions
under this chapter involving the composition of a lot of a commercial soil and
plant amendment product, a certified copy of the official analysis signed by
the director or his duly authorized agent shall be accepted as prima facie
evidence of the composition.
    (2)  A person who violates or fails to comply with this chapter or any
rules adopted under this chapter may be assessed a civil penalty by the
department or its duly authorized agent of not more than ten thousand dollars
($10,000) for each offense and shall be liable to the department for
reasonable attorney's fees. The department may assess a civil penalty in
conjunction with any other department administrative action. No civil penalty
may be assessed unless the person charged was given notice and opportunity for
a hearing under the Idaho administrative procedure act, chapter 52, title 67,
Idaho Code. If the director is unable to collect the penalty or if a person
fails to pay all or a set portion of the civil penalty as determined by the
department, the department may recover the amount in an action in the
appropriate district court. A person against whom the director has assessed a
civil penalty under this section may, within thirty (30) days of the final
action by the agency making the assessment, appeal the assessment to the
district court of the county in which the violation is alleged by the
department to have occurred.
    (3)  Nothing in this chapter requires the director or a duly authorized
representative to report minor violations of this chapter for prosecution, or
for the institution of seizure proceedings, when the director believes that
the public interest will be best served by a suitable notice of warning in
writing.
    (4)  A prosecuting attorney to whom any violation is reported shall,
without delay, cause appropriate proceedings to be instituted and prosecuted
in a court of competent jurisdiction. Before the director reports a violation
for prosecution by a prosecuting attorney, the director shall give the person
charged with the violation an opportunity to present his view to the director.
    (5)  The director may apply for and the court is authorized to grant a
temporary or permanent injunction restraining any person from violating or
continuing to violate this chapter or any rule adopter  adopted  under this
chapter notwithstanding the existence of other remedies of law. An injunction
shall be issued without bond.
 
 

Dave Robison wrote:

Merla, perhaps I don't understand the registration issues.
Why do you need registration for preps? If you spray homeopathic treated
water, why does it need to be certified for OG? Is this because the weed
board needs to claim it as a pesticide? Does compost tea need to be certified?
Sewage sludge isn't certified because of the danger of heavy metals.
Clopyralid pesticide is a serious problem that just showed up last year.
The chemical is used in as a pre-emergence herbicide under the name
"Confront". Usage is restricted to licensed applicators, but that include
lawn companies. These same companies deposit their grass clippings in local
compost yards. It turns out that clopyralid is completely persistent --
almost immune to composting. So anyone who uses that compost for planting
mix gets zapped. The problem hit commercial growers last year and was
documented by local gardeners. I'm not sure the extent to which farmers use
the chemical, non-organic straw bedding may be affected. One more reason to
make your own compost on-site and avoid brought-in stuff

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Dave Robison

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