Welcome back, and Thanks, Woody. I got this much. tough.

'A symbol of hope.' What does that mean in this case?

I think of those coal miners that were just rescued in PA? Would it 
have been cool if everyone had taken the Dali Llama's approach to 
that rescue? All inaction, all symbols of hope? Or is it appropriate 
to take action? And how do we differentiate between things we do 
because we can do and things we do not do because we think we cannot 
do them?

I'm just asking. I just don't get it today.

On the meat eating thing, that quote was from a press conference he 
gave in DC in which my vegan friend was trying to reconcile the 
Llamas eating of hamburger with ahimsa, a path of non-violence. The 
Llama was quite proud to say that he had moslems that slaughtered the 
animals the meat came from, so it was not contrary to Buddhist 'law.' 
We got the same sort of in-group morality with Kebza at Claymont. 
(Kebza is the precursor to Sufism. It is still practiced in the 
Caucusus (sp?) Mtns and their tradition still recalls the day the 
fellow came up from Persia to 'steal' Kebza for Sufism..) 
In-group/Chosen People/Kingdom of God vs Gentiles. In the case of 
Kebza, stealing horses was forbidden within the Kebza group but was 
something to be proud of if you stole from someone outside of Kebza.

Of course, J.G. Bennet held that the Sermon on the Mount lays out a 
similar morality directly from Christ. A dual morality: one for 
community of the converts (the kingdom of heaven or the kingdom of 
christ) and another for the (less than human) gentiles 
(non-christians, in this case). Bennet's insights, of course, are 
substantially different that what we as evolved humans usually think 
of : love for all living things. Love for those inside and those 
outside of our group, etc.

More important for the powers that be, of course, is that, like 
Merla, we are precious inner energies are absorbed by our sense that 
we cannot live up to the standards that we have allowed to be imposed 
upon us. It's that continual sense of unworthiness, says John 
Trudell, that the ruling class mines from the subjugated. For them, 
it is yet another form of wealth.

Let me state once again my unquivering admiration for the life and 
works of Rudlof Steiner. For him, it was never enough to just 'be,' 
he conceived of and created systems that are capable of making life 
better for everyone. (My appreciation is high for those who worked 
with him, also.)

-Allan

>Allan:
>
>Why do you assume the DL [bless his occasionally meat=eating person] has to
>DO something--not that he doesn't do things.  His BEING is enough, as guide,
>inspiration and symbol of hope for many, including his countrymen.
>
>Woody

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