Jane,

We all at some level like to place people into this or
that niche.  Because of your "loud mouth" and strong
righteous positioning, it is easy for me to send a bit
of bile your way to be symbolic of a bunch of people's
sentiment about speaking your mind openly.  "BD piety"
I had actually coined for someone else, more acurate
for my point would have been more like "eco-activist
piety".  Even though I niched you for my point, I
reacted to what I felt was niching me into the role of
timid bystander who still sucks from the tit of the
mainstream.

Again, I have spoken openly before, but now is not the
time.

> PS: A google search on you just shows off your phd

I do not have a PhD yet, nor have I lined up a
post-doc for when I finsh (soon).  Thus the
sensitivity.  In this biz, until you are established,
it is easy to snuff you out or just position you as a
wing nut, but after you are established, you can speak
up.

For example,  there is a man up for tenure here who
has spoken out against the fertilizer industry and
done very good work along those lines.  However, his
tenure was just blocked by levels above the department
(this U. is heavily subsidized by AgBiz).  His
collaborator here, on the other hand, already has
tenure and so is untouchable. 

so, the point is one of choosing your battles and not
needlessly sticking your neck out.  

There also seems to be a generalized thing in
spiritual cirles where more feministic spiritualities
like to be vocal, whereas more patriarchal
spiritualities like to remain anonymous about exactly
who they are, while still quietly guiding/affecting
the unfolding of events.

I get mad when people start onto the spiritual
materialism thing or when people think they know your
situation and can preach to you.  

Peace,

Chris




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