Gerald,

> Linux changes all the time. If you want full SW support for 
> these displays  then you would need to add $500 to the cost of each of them.
>

That's an interesting calculation, I wonder how you have calculated that 
price. The CircuitCo LCD prices are actually very high for what they offer. 
So please don't tell me that they do not make any profit and do it only 
because they like the Linux community.
 

> The concept here is the people that buy them, know how Linux works and can 
> get things going themselves and make what ever tweaks are 
> required. Supporting all the different kernel versions and distributions, 
> that is no feasible.
>

Probably this is the nice business concept used by TI, CircuitCo, etc. Sell 
chips and boards, make money, but let the open source community write the 
software and support everything for free. Just make a product, label it to 
be "for developers" and sell it without any support. This seems to be a 
very nice buisiness model. Those boards and capes are not made by students 
in a garage and sold in low quantities, they are professionally distributed 
through Digikey, Mouser, etc. and TI and CircuitCo do profit from the 
sales. You say that every developer who uses the boards is supposed to be 
able to rewrite and patch low level Linux kernel drivers? He is supposed to 
have the time, knowledge and ressources to fix bugs that would cost the 
manufacturers hundreds of thousands of dollars? Here I am just referring to 
your $500 price tag! And if someone fixes the bugs for free this just means 
that CircuitCo, TI, etc. can sell even more "development boards" and chips. 
Nice concept...

Who is actually behind Beagleboard.org? It is TI and CircuitCo as far as I 
see. Refering to your other post, pointing me to "just use the latest 
Angstrom" I wonder if you have not read my previous posts. Nobody has ever 
pointed me to any X11 bug (which IMHO is not the problem at all). Zubair, 
one of the driver developers, has clearly stated that the bug is known and 
is caused by the drivers which are in the kernel. If I am not mistaken, you 
are responsible for beagleboard.org, you are a TI employee and you are 
responsible for quality assurance. I still wonder why it is still not 
written in big red letters on the LCD pages of CircuitCo (and 4D Systems 
should then copy and paste that) that NONE of their displays work with the 
latest Angstrom images. Please update that information so people can think 
again if they should buy those boards and capes for their projects.

Regards,

Anguel



>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Hi Anguel
>>
>> Probably a little harsh to say CircuitCo and 4D Systems don't care about 
>> the problem. If you look at what 4D Systems claims, they state the software 
>> is not written or supported by them and they are essentially supplying 
>> hardware only, so they are actually unable to do anything about it even if 
>> they wanted to. I am still confused about what role CircuitCo plays, if 
>> they are just a hardware supplier or do software too. Beaglebone.org and 
>> beagleboardtoys.org along with TI and all the other players, I really 
>> have no idea who does what.
>>
>> I do hope however we can get to the bottom of it.
>>
>> Hi Gerald
>>
>> Being a beginner with Linux, I don't even know what the X11 is. I have 
>> tried the latest Angstrom release for the BBB and the touch issue is still 
>> present, or are you meaning something else?
>> It does seem a little disappointing how the software does not work 
>> correctly for the hardware. I have a friend who was building an industrial 
>> product with the LCD4 and BBB, yet due to the touch issues the product was 
>> useless, so he ended up using a different solution entirely. I am sure 
>> there are many others who fall into this camp too.
>>
>> I do hope we can find a solution
>>
>> Regards
>> Terry
>>
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