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On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:11:57 PM UTC-6, liyaoshi wrote:
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> A part of this group interest me is about the rants 
>
> Nest Time ,if I have chance to be abroad , I will use the skill learned 
> from here 
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> :)
>
>
> 2013/12/31 Gerald Coley <[email protected] <javascript:>>
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>> I designed the BBB. Other people design the capes. No capes come from 
>> BeagleBoard.org. So feel free to rant, but facts do have a place in rants.
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Terry Storm 
>> <[email protected]<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
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>>> Hi William
>>>
>>> As I said, I have no problem with the BBB hardware.
>>> I am 100% referring to the software. If the software sucks then to the 
>>> average Joe Bloggs the hardware then also, well, sucks.
>>> If Joe Bloggs buys a BBB and a cape made by the same company, and there 
>>> is a recommended software to go with it which claims compatibility, then 
>>> Joe Bloggs would rightly expect that the BBB + CAPE + OS will run as 
>>> advertised, and this isnt the case.
>>>
>>> I personally am using but a fraction of what the BBB is capable of 
>>> doing, however I wouldn't have thought using a BBB made by CircuitCo and a 
>>> LCD Cape made by CircuitCo, running the recommended OS with everything as 
>>> default, and finding that the touch does not work and things like the mouse 
>>> pointer jumps all over the screen, kinda not fit for purpose?
>>>
>>> If someone like me buys a BBB + Cape and uses an OS which is recommended 
>>> and claims compatibility, and finds that it doesn't work for something as 
>>> fundamental as the touch screen, is that classed as user error?
>>>
>>> I personally think not.
>>>
>>> I stand by my comment of it being a flop, as if the company does not 
>>> make a profit after selling 100K of a popular product, then really... what 
>>> was the point.
>>> And in terms of sales and people not being able to get stock, you have 
>>> to start to wonder how many of those are from users reading the marketting 
>>> and thinking that will be great, to find when they get it they have no idea 
>>> how to fix problems they encounter (like me) and so cannot use it as they 
>>> wanted to.
>>>
>>> Many of the happy people probably dont use Capes as you said. It just 
>>> sucks that the people who designed the cape also design the BBB, and they 
>>> dont work right purely due to the Software. BBB + LCD Cape on Android works 
>>> fine, so the hardware is perfectly fine, but Android is of no use to many 
>>> so it doesnt help much.
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 14:07:17 UTC+13, William Hermans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Terry,
>>>>
>>>> I do realize you're mostly aiming your comments at Gerald but let me 
>>>> just say that I think you missed a few key points.
>>>>
>>>> 1) This is not a Dell or common general purpose PC. So you can not 
>>>> expect the same from such hardware. With that said, there is nothing wrong 
>>>> with the hardware. It all works fine, and actually up until recently the 
>>>> only thing that did not work was the SGX/DRM video drivers. Now, that has 
>>>> been resolved, but still in alpha / beta stage (  ish ). Different people 
>>>> seem to have experienced different problems here and there, but think this 
>>>> is very likely mostly user error.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Do you understand the idea of open source hardware ? *.org is 
>>>> usually and possibly always non profit domain name affiliation. What 
>>>> Gerald 
>>>> and his partners have planned I have no idea, but in my own mind the 
>>>> Beaglebone black is far from a flop. Quite the opposite actually when 
>>>> electronics retailers can hardly seem to keep them in stock, because they 
>>>> sell so fast.
>>>>
>>>> 3) If you can pick up a book, or read web pages you can do this 
>>>> yourself. Many in this group will help, even me, when you have a 
>>>> reasonable 
>>>> question to ask. 
>>>>
>>>> Anyways it really suck that this does not seem to be working for you. 
>>>> Just now that many of of are perfectly happy with these little boards. 
>>>> Heck 
>>>> there are a few people who own ten's and possibly even hundred's of these 
>>>> very boards . . .
>>>>
>>>>
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