You know what I find "funny" ?

That here is one hell of a piece of hardware ( complete system ), that
costs $45( very good price ), that works very well if you're willing to
spend some time working on it ( software ). And all a bunch of people on
this list can do is complain, find conspiracy theories, or otherwise just
try to find something wrong with it or the situation.

There is *NOTHING* better out there right now as a learning platform.
PERIOD. In fact, not only is it a very good learning platform, there are
people I know for a fact who use MANY of these in commercial type
applications. I have talked to 1-2 people who claimed to have purchased 100
or more of these, and have talked with several people who have over 10.
Here, we own 2, and eventually we will probably own many more.

Is the BBB perfect ? Well that is debatable, and really depends on your
needs, but I would say no. Nothing ever is. But for the price, there really
is nothing to complain about. Now if you're incapable of working with the
hardware to make it do what you want. You know what, that is your own
fault. Compulsive buyer is probably how I would initially label these
types. These people can try and twist words from this source and that, but
the truth of the matter is that this system is a learning platform, with
very good potential. *IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK AT IT. *Or does every one
else here think we're able to have a complete Dell like support situation
for $45 ? Right . . . keep dreaming.

Now if these people would come on the list asking for help stating that
x-y-z does not work with x-y-z platform, using x-y-z software etc. Many
people would offer to try and help, even myself. But the same situation
with the exception of complaining about it, pointing fingers, trying to
find conspiracy . . . yeah I have absolutely zero sympathy. You know what
else, I have no idea who works for TI (still ? ), who does not, and what
the motivation is for this project for ANY of the companies involved. Go
out, take the schematics / gerber files etc. Send them off to some PCB fab
company, and TRY to have even just the PCB's made for the same price as
what circuitco sells the PCBA for . . . Gratitude for ya . . .

Now to the guy talking about the Cortex M3 MCU's, and how they seemingly
went out of production overnight. If you had paid attention to the errata
for these processors in the first place you never would have thought about
using it. Not for anything serious anyway. TI replaced these with Cortex
M4's very quickly, not to mention there are other Cortex "equivalents" (
geared towards safety, automotive etc. ).

Anyway, I need to stop as I am starting to scare myself by sounding too
much like a TI Evangelist ( which I am not) But some of you seriously need
to wake up to a  fresh cup of reality.


On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM, David Anders <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 6:55:38 AM UTC-6, Anguel wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 1:37:02 PM UTC+1, Elena Grandi wrote:
>>>
>>> This theory has a problem: Beagleboard.org was born in 2008 or so,
>>> much earlier than the Raspberry (which started to be known to the
>>> public in 2011, and was available in 2012).
>>>
>>
>> Ok, I admit I am not much aware of the way Beagleboard.org worked before
>> the lower-cost Beaglebones were introduced, but it has always been driven
>> by marketing, initially aimed at colleges, according to Wikipedia.
>> I just want to make clear that big companies don't do anything without
>> profit.
>>
>>
> here is the thing: TI has nothing to do with beagleboard.org other than
> they sell the processors to circuitco to make the boards - that's it.....
>
> have a quick read - http://beagleboard.org/about
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Of course the success of the Raspberry did influence BB.org's
>>> products: back in 2008 the standard price for this kind of
>>> boards was around 150$ (e.g. the original BeagleBoard) and it had been
>>> slowly coming down to just below 100$ (e.g. the BeagleBone White):
>>> it was Raspberry and its extreme corner cutting that brought
>>> prices down below 50$, and other producers had to adapt their offerings.
>>>
>>>
>> I totally agree. Nobody would buy a BBB for $150 when you can get a
>> Raspberry Pi. But prices of other HW components have probably also dropped
>> significantly since the old days.
>>
>>
> here is the thing: in 2007 when beagleboard was started, the only other
> open hardware platform that was available was the arduino. the idea of an
> open hardware platform was very new. in addition in 2007 you could not
> purchase an arm development platform for less than $1000USD! beagleboard
> was the FIRST arm development platform that cost less than $200 and it was
> the FIRST arm open hardware platform....
>
> so.... beagleboard has been and always will be the driving force for low
> cost open hardware platforms...
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>> Anguel
>>
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