From:  William Hermans <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  <[email protected]>
Date:  Saturday, May 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM
To:  <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] path of least resistance to Debian

> I can not disagree more with John on this last point. If you need a support
> system for Debian, use Debian as the support system. Also, stay away from
> using X, and Window managers if you can help it.
I wasn¹t suggesting that anyone use Ubuntu for development, I was just
describing my own setup. BTW, I did try Debian Wheezy and it didn¹t go very
well. First my Nvidia GTX670 didn¹t work with the open source driver given
that I have 3 x 30 inch Dell monitors. I was somewhat surprised that Debian
is still using Linux Kernel V3.2 and I had to hunt around for so many
repositories to get just the basic tools I need. I¹m no fan of Ubuntu, but
for now it does the job for me and I¹m familiar with it. One more thing,
developing on Windows is a nightmare given NTFS which is case insensitive.

Regards,
John
> 
> 
> Cross compiling from Windows does work, I've had this working since early on,
> but for most ( some ? ) people this is probably less than optimal. Definitely
> if you're using OSX as your desktop.
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:51 PM, John Syn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From:  Brian Lloyd <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To:  <[email protected]>
>> Date:  Friday, May 9, 2014 at 6:51 PM
>> To:  <[email protected]>
>> Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] path of least resistance to Debian
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:42 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> #1 Personally I would run from a uSD card to make sure it is what you want.
>>>> Plus it doesnt hurt to run from the sd card, unless you do not have a uSD
>>>> card + sd card adapter, and do not care to spend money on this.
>>> 
>>> I have a 16GB uSD card to run from. Just wondering what the pros and cons
>>> are. Seems that the cons are worry that the eMMC will reach its write limit.
>>> I don't think that will be an issue for my application as I intend to use
>>> the BBB as an embedded system. (See below.)
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> #2 I'll defer to someone else, as I am not a MAC person.
>>> 
>>> Mac is just FreeBSD once you are in the shell (for the most part). There are
>>> worse places to be. ;-)
>> There are some incompatibilities with OSX, but if you use ³MacPort² or
>> ³HomeBrew² or ³Fink² to get the GNU tool versions. Since the GNU version are
>> the same as Debian or Ubuntu, the same instructions will work on Mac.
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> #3 NO idea where you got this impression. All the instructions I've seen
>>>> are *NIX based, and I *DO* personally run Windows for my own desktop
>>>> environment.
>>> 
>>> I couldn't find any instructions other than for doing it from Windows until
>>> I was pointed to the Adafruit site.
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> #4 You would have to boot up via uSD to write out the eMMC I believe.
>>>  
>>> I now have Debian running from the uSD card and it is working just peachy.
>>> Attempts to copy the eMMC version to the eMMC didn't work but I only want
>>> that as a backup to the uSD. Eventually I will probably want to run from
>>> eMMC when I close everything up and shove it into a rack.
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> You may want to consider dedicating a machine, or perhaps use virtualbox to
>>>> have a Debian wheezy i386 support system. This really depends on how
>>>> serious you are. As an example, I compile my own kernel based on Robert
>>>> Nelsons instructions, and build a custom rootfs also based on his bare
>>>> rootfs stuff. Which I mount rootfs over our network ( to prevent me from
>>>> ruining flash media while I experiment / tweak various things ).
>>> 
>>> Thank you. I may go that route. I have a couple of machines I plan to
>>> dedicate to Linux (one is already running ubuntu -- not sure that is going
>>> to stay that way). Is there a good cross-development environment or is it
>>> just as easy to build on the BBB itself?
>> The only issue preventing me from using OSX for all my BBB development is
>> Linaro does not have a cross compiler for OSX. Also
>> OpenEmbedded/Angstrom/Yocto do not work on OSX. Since running Robert Nelson¹s
>> scripts depend on Linaro, you cannot use his build scripts either. For now I
>> use an Ubuntu 14.04 box. You might want to consider Parallels and install
>> Ubuntu x64 which works great.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John
>>> 
>>> The project right now is turning the BBB into a GPS-disciplined NTP server.
>>> The plan is to have a local UTC display (I think Nixies would be cool for
>>> that classic retro look but 7-segment LED displays would be OK too and
>>> easier to drive) and eventually use it to discipline my Rubidium reference
>>> as well.
>>> 
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>>> 706 Flightline Drive
>>> Spring Branch, TX 78070
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