Well John, this is why people like me research hardware to use with various OSes, and distro's Unlike Windows that can almost have any hardware tossed at it ( whether it works well or not ), Linux, or specifically Debian in this case can be very finicky.
I dont recall what the topic was of the Video, but if you search youtube for Linus torvalds + F*** nVidia . . . Yeah lets just say you might be mildly amused. nVidia in the past and probably still does not play nice with the open source community. As far as the older kernel goes. Debian is known to move slower and more purposeful when compared to other distro;s. And as a result is generally very, very stable. However, because of this, also generally you need to pay attention to supported hardware. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, John Syn <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: William Hermans <[email protected]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, May 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM > > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [beagleboard] path of least resistance to Debian > > I can not disagree more with John on this last point. If you need a > support system for Debian, use Debian as the support system. Also, stay > away from using X, and Window managers if you can help it. > > I wasn’t suggesting that anyone use Ubuntu for development, I was just > describing my own setup. BTW, I did try Debian Wheezy and it didn’t go very > well. First my Nvidia GTX670 didn’t work with the open source driver given > that I have 3 x 30 inch Dell monitors. I was somewhat surprised that Debian > is still using Linux Kernel V3.2 and I had to hunt around for so many > repositories to get just the basic tools I need. I’m no fan of Ubuntu, but > for now it does the job for me and I’m familiar with it. One more thing, > developing on Windows is a nightmare given NTFS which is case insensitive. > > Regards, > John > > > > Cross compiling from Windows does work, I've had this working since early > on, but for most ( some ? ) people this is probably less than optimal. > Definitely if you're using OSX as your desktop. > > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:51 PM, John Syn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> From: Brian Lloyd <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, May 9, 2014 at 6:51 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [beagleboard] path of least resistance to Debian >> >> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:42 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> #1 Personally I would run from a uSD card to make sure it is what you >>> want. Plus it doesnt hurt to run from the sd card, unless you do not have a >>> uSD card + sd card adapter, and do not care to spend money on this. >>> >> >> I have a 16GB uSD card to run from. Just wondering what the pros and cons >> are. Seems that the cons are worry that the eMMC will reach its write >> limit. I don't think that will be an issue for my application as I intend >> to use the BBB as an embedded system. (See below.) >> >> >>> >>> #2 I'll defer to someone else, as I am not a MAC person. >>> >> >> Mac is just FreeBSD once you are in the shell (for the most part). There >> are worse places to be. ;-) >> >> There are some incompatibilities with OSX, but if you use “MacPort” or >> “HomeBrew” or “Fink” to get the GNU tool versions. Since the GNU version >> are the same as Debian or Ubuntu, the same instructions will work on Mac. >> >> >> >>> >>> #3 NO idea where you got this impression. All the instructions I've seen >>> are *NIX based, and I *DO* personally run Windows for my own desktop >>> environment. >>> >> >> I couldn't find any instructions other than for doing it from Windows >> until I was pointed to the Adafruit site. >> >> >>> >>> #4 You would have to boot up via uSD to write out the eMMC I believe. >>> >> >> I now have Debian running from the uSD card and it is working just >> peachy. Attempts to copy the eMMC version to the eMMC didn't work but I >> only want that as a backup to the uSD. Eventually I will probably want to >> run from eMMC when I close everything up and shove it into a rack. >> >> >>> >>> You may want to consider dedicating a machine, or perhaps use virtualbox >>> to have a Debian wheezy i386 support system. This really depends on how >>> serious you are. As an example, I compile my own kernel based on Robert >>> Nelsons instructions, and build a custom rootfs also based on his bare >>> rootfs stuff. Which I mount rootfs over our network ( to prevent me from >>> ruining flash media while I experiment / tweak various things ). >>> >> >> Thank you. I may go that route. I have a couple of machines I plan to >> dedicate to Linux (one is already running ubuntu -- not sure that is going >> to stay that way). Is there a good cross-development environment or is it >> just as easy to build on the BBB itself? >> >> The only issue preventing me from using OSX for all my BBB development is >> Linaro does not have a cross compiler for OSX. Also >> OpenEmbedded/Angstrom/Yocto do not work on OSX. Since running Robert >> Nelson’s scripts depend on Linaro, you cannot use his build scripts either. >> For now I use an Ubuntu 14.04 box. You might want to consider Parallels and >> install Ubuntu x64 which works great. >> >> Regards, >> John >> >> >> The project right now is turning the BBB into a GPS-disciplined NTP >> server. The plan is to have a local UTC display (I think Nixies would be >> cool for that classic retro look but 7-segment LED displays would be OK too >> and easier to drive) and eventually use it to discipline my Rubidium >> reference as well. >> >> -- >> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL >> 706 Flightline Drive >> Spring Branch, TX 78070 >> [email protected] >> +1.916.877.5067 >> >> -- >> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "BeagleBoard" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "BeagleBoard" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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