I think it should be pretty clear, and if this is not abundantly clear to
new users. **DO NOT USE umask* *Period. good bye, the end.

One should leave the default settings and instead work with the system as
intended. Instead of creating a serious potential security hole.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:27 PM, John Syne <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> The way I think about this is umask turns off permission, which means that
> the execute permission is provided by gcc.
>
> For example:
>
> MBPR:~ john$ umask
> 0022
> MBPR:~ john $ touch test
> MBPR:~ john $ ls -la test
> -rw-r--r--  1 john  staff  0 Mar 25 22:15 test
> MBPR:~ john $ gcc -Wall -o hello hello.c
> MBPR:~ john $ ls -la hello
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 john  staff  8432 Mar 25 22:17 hello
>
>
> As you can see, 022 is turning off “group" write and “other" write
> permissions. So normally, touch would provide 0666, but when umask is 022,
> permission is anded with the inverse of umask, which provides 0644. So gcc
> would create a file with 0777 if umask was 000.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 03/25/2016 08:11 PM, William Hermans wrote:
>
> Im guessing that perhaps gcc's -o option now days enables the executable
> bit on the output file ? I haven't looked into that however.
>
> Nothing at all to do with gcc, reread what I already posted...
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 5:08 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> No, Mike is absolutely correct. dot's meaning in this context is current
>> directory, and slash is just a path modifier / separator. Putting the file
>> in ones $PATH would solve the "problem" of having to use dot slash I've
>> know  this forever, I do not know why I was thinking that chmod +x would
>> solve that "issue", because it wont.
>>
>> I do recall at some point perhaps not too long ago that changing file
>> permissions to executable was required. But now days this does not seem to
>> be the case . . . I've always in the last several years use ./executable
>> until I put the executable into my local path . . .
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Mike < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/25/2016 02:03 PM, William Hermans wrote:
>>>
>>> No chmod needed *IF* you precede the command with a dot slash "./". So
>>> when you run a regular Linux command do you have to type this dot slash ?
>>> No because chmod +x is run on the executable at some point . . .
>>>
>>> So be nice to fellow group users who actually know what they're talking
>>> about, and have been on this list a lot longer than you.
>>>
>>> Maybe we need to learn what ./ does...  It has absolutely nothing to do
>>> with a files permissions or whether it's executable or not.  It's use is
>>> regarding the lack of the current directory "." in one's PATH variable.
>>> Umask is (largely) what controls what permissions a file is created with.
>>>
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ls -al
>>> total 12
>>> drwxr-xr-x  2 mike mike 4096 Mar 25 17:07 .
>>> drwxr-xr-x 37 mike mike 4096 Mar 25 16:46 ..
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 mike mike   78 Mar 25 16:47 hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ umask
>>> 0022
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ gcc -Wall -o hello hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ls -l
>>> total 12
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 mike mike 6696 Mar 25 17:08 hello
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike   78 Mar 25 16:47 hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ hello
>>> bash: hello: command not found
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ./hello
>>> Hello, world!
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ umask 0137
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ gcc -Wall -o hello hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ls -l
>>> total 12
>>> -rw-r----- 1 mike mike 6696 Mar 25 17:09 hello
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike   78 Mar 25 16:47 hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ hello
>>> bash: hello: command not found
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ./hello
>>> bash: ./hello: Permission denied
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ls -l
>>> total 12
>>> -rw-r----- 1 mike mike 6696 Mar 25 17:09 hello
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike   78 Mar 25 16:47 hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ chmod 0750 hello
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ls -l
>>> total 12
>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 mike mike 6696 Mar 25 17:09 hello
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike   78 Mar 25 16:47 hello.c
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ ./hello
>>> Hello, world!
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ umask 022
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$ umask
>>> 0022
>>> mike@pride-n-joy:~/test.d$
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Dieter Wirz < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Graham Haddock <
>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Yes.
>>>> > sudo chmod 755 myprogram
>>>> > or
>>>> > sudo chmod 755 myprogram.o
>>>> >
>>>> Graham, please do not tell fairy tails on this list!
>>>>
>>>> $ echo '#include <stdio.h>' > hello.c
>>>> $ echo 'int main (void) {  printf ("Hello, world!\n");   return 0; }'
>>>> >> hello.c
>>>> $ cat hello.c
>>>> #include <stdio.h>
>>>> int main (void) {  printf ("Hello, world!\n");   return 0; }
>>>> $ gcc -Wall -o hello hello.c
>>>> $ ./hello
>>>> Hello, world!
>>>> $ ls -l
>>>> total 12
>>>> -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 7332 Mar 25 16:32 hello
>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 dw dw   80 Mar 25 16:31 hello.c
>>>> $
>>>>
>>>> No chmod needed, no myprogram.o there, why the sudo????
>>>>
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