It sounds feasible at first glance! But of course, the details always matter 
more than the high-level idea.

> On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:07 AM, clas...@zzzcomputing.com wrote:
> 
> sorry, yes, this would be a new feature.   However, if you think it's 
> entirely infeasible (match "album-less" tracks to albums) or if beets 
> wouldn't want this feature, that would be helpful to know up front.
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 11:03:09 AM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
> If you’re interested in a new feature in beets, please open a feature request 
> ticket on the GitHub issue tracker. It can be really helpful if you explain 
> in lots of detail how exactly you think the feature should work.
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2016, at 10:48 AM, cla...@ <>zzzcomputing.com 
>> <http://zzzcomputing.com/> wrote:
>> 
>> Beets finds lots of hits for albums, tracks, etc. and has you pick one.  Why 
>> can't it do that for the multiple albums in a track ?  (also in this 
>> example, the tracks have only one album on musicbrainz).
>> 
>> On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:14:58 PM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>> Aha! Thanks for sending the link. I finally understand.
>> 
>> Here’s the deal: beets tagged those files, but it *didn't change the `album` 
>> field*. The album field is left exactly how you had it.
>> 
>> The problem is that there’s no album information for beets to apply. In 
>> MusicBrainz, recordings (i.e., tracks) can appear on multiple albums. So 
>> even though beets found a match for a given track, it doesn’t necessarily 
>> know what album it was on. So it doesn’t set the fields `album`, 
>> `albumartist`, et cetera. You might want to clear those out with a `beet 
>> modify`.
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Adrian Sampson <adrian....@ <>gmail.com 
>>> <http://gmail.com/>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, a Dropbox link would work great. And can you also include the config 
>>> and command we should use to reproduce the problem?
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 9:26 AM, cla...@ <>zzzcomputing.com 
>>>> <http://zzzcomputing.com/> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If I import a single track, it does what's expected.  beets is confused by 
>>>> the fact that I have 20 files that are all already tagged and file-located 
>>>> as though they are all from the same album, which they are not.    
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a place I can upload 85M of files for you ?  dropbox or something 
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>>> My apologies, but I think I no longer understand what’s going on here. Is 
>>>> there some reproducible test case you can provide, including the file, 
>>>> starting from an empty library and importing a single track?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 3:18 PM, cla...@ <>zzzcomputing.com 
>>>>> <http://zzzcomputing.com/> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The files don't have MBIDs before I start importing.  Here's what we 
>>>>> start with:
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/01 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- 
>>>>> NANAK.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/02 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI 
>>>>> PEER.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- 
>>>>> SU.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/04 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN 
>>>>> DEV-SURD.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/05 05 KANHA TORI JOHAT.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/05 05 SABSE OONCHI PREM SAGAI- 
>>>>> S.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/06 06 JAI RADHA MADHAV.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/06 06 RADHA AISI BHAI SHYAM KI 
>>>>> D.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/07 07 MURLI MANOHAR GOPALA.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/07 07 PRABHU JI TUM CHANDHAN 
>>>>> HUM.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Aarti Hanuman Ji Ki.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Ganesh Jai Ganesh 
>>>>> Deva.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jag Janani Jai Jai.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jagdish Hare 2.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jagdish Hare.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jai Jai Ravi Dev.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jai Jai Tulsi Mata.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Laxami Mata.mp3
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Parvati Mata.mp3 (19 
>>>>> items)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then Ill do an import, lets say I did about five files, many others I 
>>>>> have to skip because they can't be identified, and also I did "aBort" 
>>>>> before i got to the end just to show what it's doing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's a few of the finds:
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/01 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- 
>>>>> NANAK.mp3
>>>>> Correcting track tags from:
>>>>>     Aarti - 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- NANAK
>>>>> To:
>>>>>     Jagjit Singh - Hey Gobind Hey Gopal
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/f7fc29c0-d7ac-4882-a1bf-e0e2a495a192 
>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/f7fc29c0-d7ac-4882-a1bf-e0e2a495a192>
>>>>> (Similarity: 79.5%) (artist, title)
>>>>> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
>>>>> eDit, edit Candidates? A
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/02 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI 
>>>>> PEER.mp3
>>>>> Correcting track tags from:
>>>>>     Aarti - 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI PEER
>>>>> To:
>>>>>     Jagjit Singh - Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e2f04a67-d8fd-4fea-818e-feb62445c453 
>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e2f04a67-d8fd-4fea-818e-feb62445c453>
>>>>> (Similarity: 84.5%) (artist, title)
>>>>> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
>>>>> eDit, edit Candidates? a
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- 
>>>>> SU.mp3
>>>>> Correcting track tags from:
>>>>>     Aarti - 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- SU
>>>>> To:
>>>>>     Jagjit Singh - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/778017ed-0175-4ba9-8c92-96a141badf3c 
>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/778017ed-0175-4ba9-8c92-96a141badf3c>
>>>>> (Similarity: 76.5%) (artist, title)
>>>>> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
>>>>> eDit, edit Candidates? a
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/04 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN 
>>>>> DEV-SURD.mp3
>>>>> Correcting track tags from:
>>>>>     Aarti - 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN DEV-SURD
>>>>> To:
>>>>>     Jagjit Singh - Deenan Dukh Haran Dev
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/7338031a-57d7-4f90-aab9-47d901da8151 
>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/7338031a-57d7-4f90-aab9-47d901da8151>
>>>>> (Similarity: 81.6%) (artist, title)
>>>>> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
>>>>> eDit, edit Candidates? a
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> these are working great but it is of course very time consuming to get 
>>>>> through them on track-by-track.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then at the end, here's the end result:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [classic@zotac ~]$ .venv/bin/beet list
>>>>> Aarti - Vaishnodevi - 05 KANHA TORI JOHAT
>>>>> Aarti - Vaishnodevi - Aarti Hanuman Ji Ki
>>>>> Anup Jalota - Vaishnodevi - Radha Aisi Bhai
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hey Gobind Hey Gopal
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Deenan Dukh Haran Dev
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Sabseoonchi Prem Sagai
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Radha Madhav
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Murli Manohar Gopala
>>>>> Jagjit Singh & Chitra Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Ganesh Deva
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem is, *there is no such album Vaishnodevi".    It has ignored 
>>>>> the actual album that was located for all of those tracks from Jagjit 
>>>>> Singh.  Only "singleton" mode has this problem.  If I run "beet import" 
>>>>> against each single mp3 file at a time, it doesn't go into singleton 
>>>>> mode, and it works great.    For example:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [classic@zotac ~]$ .venv/bin/beet import test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03\ 
>>>>> 03\ TUM\ MERI\ LAKHO\ RAJ\ ARI-\ SU.mp3 
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- 
>>>>> SU.mp3 (1 items)
>>>>> Finding tags for album "Aarti - Vaishnodevi".
>>>>> Candidates:
>>>>> 1. Jagjit Singh - Kare Krishna A Live Concert (26.0%) (missing tracks, 
>>>>> artist, album, ...)
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> now it found it.  beet list now shows:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Kare Krishna A Live Concert - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hey Gobind Hey Gopal
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Deenan Dukh Haran Dev
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Sabseoonchi Prem Sagai
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Radha Madhav
>>>>> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Murli Manohar Gopala
>>>>> Jagjit Singh & Chitra Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Ganesh Deva
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now we have that same track, "Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari", *twice*. One with 
>>>>> the right album, one with the wrong one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>     I don't seem to be able to do any kind of "reimport" on these tracks 
>>>>> however, all the documentatinon of "beet import -L" and such doesn't seem 
>>>>> to do anything, even if I try pointing it at just one track.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is something that beets is doing 99% of the work within, and there 
>>>>> is one weird behavior right at the end.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>>>> Hmm, maybe I don’t quite understand—if you already have MBIDs in those 
>>>>> files, beets should use them when you import them as singletons. Does it 
>>>>> not? If not, that’s a bug we should try to reproduce.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:12 PM, cla...@ <>zzzcomputing.com 
>>>>>> <http://zzzcomputing.com/> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK so that's sounding like this is really not supported as a top-level 
>>>>>> task.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It seems quite simple:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. figure out the correct artist / album for mp3 file by searching 
>>>>>> musicbrainz, discogs, etc. (beets does this)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. tag the mp3 file with that artist / album that musicbrainz lists for 
>>>>>> the track, erasing anything currently there (beets will not do this 
>>>>>> unless I manually edit each by hand and re-type the name that it already 
>>>>>> has right there)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. place in the correct directory
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Basically beets won't allow me to do this without manually editing the 
>>>>>> id3 tags, even though beets has already made me go through every track 
>>>>>> individually and look up the musicbrainz id for each.  It's literally 
>>>>>> throwing away the information it's already found and which I want to 
>>>>>> keep.    I'm a programmer so there's no reason for me to edit things 
>>>>>> individually when the data is there to automate it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which means I'm back to, "hey why don't I write a script to hit 
>>>>>> musicbrainz for all my mp3s and force them to be cataloged correctly" .  
>>>>>>    I'm looking into the beets plugin process as well but that seems like 
>>>>>> I really have to code to the internals of Beets (like maybe flipping 
>>>>>> is_album=True in SingletonimportTask, not sure) - not really sure that's 
>>>>>> worth it here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> , and if I'm going to get into manual id3 tag editing, Ithen I'd just 
>>>>>> write a script myself to hit the musicbrainz API and write the data.  It 
>>>>>> refuses to ignore or erase the incorrect album / artist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 9:25:59 AM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, the `edit` plugin would work, and so would the more CLI-oriented 
>>>>>> `beet modify album=foo`.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You could also import the with the flags `-ts`, which would turn on 
>>>>>> timid mode—i.e., avoid trusting the current metadata—and then you can 
>>>>>> enter a manual album and artist for the search.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One final option would be to turn on acoustic fingerprinting with the 
>>>>>> `chroma` plugin, which could do a reasonable job at guessing the 
>>>>>> original metadata.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:11 AM, cla...@ <>zzzcomputing.com 
>>>>>>> <http://zzzcomputing.com/> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok well I'm basically looking to "de-mixtape" these tracks.  That is, 
>>>>>>> just make them as though I just have a handful of songs that need to be 
>>>>>>> grouped into partial albums that they came from originally.  So I don't 
>>>>>>> need to group them on that "mixtape" id at all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm guessing that if I totally scrubbed these of the fake artist and 
>>>>>>> album name, then just imported them as though they were just mixed up, 
>>>>>>> then it would do it?   Of course another issue is that half the songs 
>>>>>>> on this particular "mixtape" as well as a bunch of others aren't in the 
>>>>>>> musicbrainz or discogs database at all but I'll try to deal with that 
>>>>>>> separately.   Would I try to use "beet edit" or something to scrub them 
>>>>>>> out totally?  the "scrub" plugin didn't seem to really do the right 
>>>>>>> thing on the first try but hard to tell where beets cares about the 
>>>>>>> directory structure vs. the id3 tags.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks for the quick response.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 6:55:56 PM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah, that’s a tricky case. When we originally introduced singletons, 
>>>>>>> many years ago now, the idea was for exactly this case—when you have 
>>>>>>> mixtapes from friends with an assortment of unrelated songs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Really, the “beets way” would be to leave them as singletons and add an 
>>>>>>> extra flexible attribute that links them together. For example, `beet 
>>>>>>> modify mixtape=cruise2006` or something could mark all the members of a 
>>>>>>> mixtape. Then, you’d use a path rule to group mixtapes together in 
>>>>>>> their own directories.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The only trouble, of course, is that this approach doesn’t preserve 
>>>>>>> order. (Beets needs a “playlists” concept.) But you could consider 
>>>>>>> using the track field, or even another flexible attribute, to define 
>>>>>>> the order.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hope that helps. Good luck, and please ask more questions!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:45 PM, cla...@ <>zzzcomputing.com 
>>>>>>>> <http://zzzcomputing.com/> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi there -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have what I would think is one of the primary use cases for beets 
>>>>>>>> however it seems to be unsupported.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Basically I have a bunch of tracks, all underneath a particular artist 
>>>>>>>> and album name, where that artist/album is completely made up.  But 
>>>>>>>> also, each track with this album is in reality from *totally different 
>>>>>>>> albums*.   
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The use case here is exactly what would happen in what I would think 
>>>>>>>> is the common use case of someone has a "mix tape" where every song 
>>>>>>>> has been tagged with someone's fake "album" name.  We want to move the 
>>>>>>>> tracks all underneath the actual artist/album they'd be from, given 
>>>>>>>> that we are generating only "partial" albums that have just a few 
>>>>>>>> tracks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Options I'm working with to deal with this include the "scrub" plugin 
>>>>>>>> as well as the "group_album" option.  They are still not removing the 
>>>>>>>> fake album name even though a *real* album name is right in the 
>>>>>>>> musicbrainz listing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here is a small part of the example I'm working with, this is 
>>>>>>>> traditional Indian music (from my wife's collection, I don't know 
>>>>>>>> anything about this kind of music):
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /Aarti/Vaishnodevi/01 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- NANAK.mp3
>>>>>>>> /Aarti/Vaishnodevi/02 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI PEER.mp3
>>>>>>>> /Aarti/Vaishnodevi/04 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN DEV-SURD.mp3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I do "import" for these, beets can't find anything about an album 
>>>>>>>> "Aarti - Vaishnodevi" because there is no such thing.  So my only 
>>>>>>>> choice is to press T for "as tracks".  Whether or not I do "group 
>>>>>>>> albums" first does not affect the result.   Then it looks up each song 
>>>>>>>> individually, and slowly enough I can find close enough identifiers:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/6f80178a-9fb4-4e5e-8901-59c7fe9563cf 
>>>>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/6f80178a-9fb4-4e5e-8901-59c7fe9563cf>
>>>>>>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e2f04a67-d8fd-4fea-818e-feb62445c453 
>>>>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e2f04a67-d8fd-4fea-818e-feb62445c453>
>>>>>>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/7ab29996-6032-474a-975d-1fca8f20edab 
>>>>>>>> <http://musicbrainz.org/recording/7ab29996-6032-474a-975d-1fca8f20edab>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Because I've had no choice but to select "as tracks", these are forced 
>>>>>>>> into "singleton" mode, which means, "there's no album", which I don't 
>>>>>>>> really understand since of course there's an album for each one.   
>>>>>>>> I've changed my "singleton" format to read "$albumartist/$album/$track 
>>>>>>>> $title", rather than "No Album".  However, it leaves the ficticious 
>>>>>>>> album name in place (or if I use "scrub", I get a dash), and does not 
>>>>>>>> use the information from the musicbrainz listing, and I get:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Vaishnodevi/01 Hey Gobind Hey Gopal _ Nanak.mp3
>>>>>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Vaishnodevi/02 Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer.mp3
>>>>>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Vaishnodevi/04 Deenan Dukh Haran Dev _ Surdas.mp3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> this is wrong.  Ignoring that musicbrainz' release titles look a 
>>>>>>>> little off here, what it should be based on those ids, is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Hare Krishna: A Live Concert/01 Hey Gobind Hey Gopal _ 
>>>>>>>> Nanak.mp3
>>>>>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Kare Krishna A Live Concert/02 Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki 
>>>>>>>> Peer.mp3
>>>>>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Hare Krishna: A Live Concert/04 Deenan Dukh Haran Dev _ 
>>>>>>>> Surdas.mp3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there some option for this behavior or is this an unsupported use 
>>>>>>>> case ?   (what do people organizing old mix tapes with bad album names 
>>>>>>>> do? )
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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