If I import a single track, it does what's expected.  beets is confused by 
the fact that I have 20 files that are all already tagged and file-located 
as though they are all from the same album, which they are not.    

Is there a place I can upload 85M of files for you ?  dropbox or something ?

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>
> My apologies, but I think I no longer understand what’s going on here. Is 
> there some reproducible test case you can provide, including the file, 
> starting from an empty library and importing a single track?
>
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 3:18 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
>
> The files don't have MBIDs before I start importing.  Here's what we start 
> with:
>
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/01 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- 
> NANAK.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/02 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI 
> PEER.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- 
> SU.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/04 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN 
> DEV-SURD.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/05 05 KANHA TORI JOHAT.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/05 05 SABSE OONCHI PREM SAGAI- 
> S.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/06 06 JAI RADHA MADHAV.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/06 06 RADHA AISI BHAI SHYAM KI 
> D.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/07 07 MURLI MANOHAR GOPALA.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/07 07 PRABHU JI TUM CHANDHAN 
> HUM.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Aarti Hanuman Ji Ki.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Ganesh Jai Ganesh 
> Deva.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jag Janani Jai Jai.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jagdish Hare 2.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jagdish Hare.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jai Jai Ravi Dev.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Jai Jai Tulsi Mata.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Laxami Mata.mp3
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/32 Jai Parvati Mata.mp3 (19 
> items)
>
>
> Then Ill do an import, lets say I did about five files, many others I have 
> to skip because they can't be identified, and also I did "aBort" before i 
> got to the end just to show what it's doing.
>
> Here's a few of the finds:
>
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/01 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- 
> NANAK.mp3
> Correcting track tags from:
>     Aarti - 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- NANAK
> To:
>     Jagjit Singh - Hey Gobind Hey Gopal
> URL:
>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/f7fc29c0-d7ac-4882-a1bf-e0e2a495a192
> (Similarity: 79.5%) (artist, title)
> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
> eDit, edit Candidates? A
>
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/02 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI 
> PEER.mp3
> Correcting track tags from:
>     Aarti - 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI PEER
> To:
>     Jagjit Singh - Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer
> URL:
>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e2f04a67-d8fd-4fea-818e-feb62445c453
> (Similarity: 84.5%) (artist, title)
> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
> eDit, edit Candidates? a
>
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- 
> SU.mp3
> Correcting track tags from:
>     Aarti - 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- SU
> To:
>     Jagjit Singh - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
> URL:
>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/778017ed-0175-4ba9-8c92-96a141badf3c
> (Similarity: 76.5%) (artist, title)
> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
> eDit, edit Candidates? a
>
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/04 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN 
> DEV-SURD.mp3
> Correcting track tags from:
>     Aarti - 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN DEV-SURD
> To:
>     Jagjit Singh - Deenan Dukh Haran Dev
> URL:
>     http://musicbrainz.org/recording/7338031a-57d7-4f90-aab9-47d901da8151
> (Similarity: 81.6%) (artist, title)
> [A]pply, More candidates, Skip, Use as-is, Enter search, enter Id, aBort,
> eDit, edit Candidates? a
>
>
> these are working great but it is of course very time consuming to get 
> through them on track-by-track.
>
> Then at the end, here's the end result:
>
> [classic@zotac ~]$ .venv/bin/beet list
> Aarti - Vaishnodevi - 05 KANHA TORI JOHAT
> Aarti - Vaishnodevi - Aarti Hanuman Ji Ki
> Anup Jalota - Vaishnodevi - Radha Aisi Bhai
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hey Gobind Hey Gopal
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Deenan Dukh Haran Dev
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Sabseoonchi Prem Sagai
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Radha Madhav
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Murli Manohar Gopala
> Jagjit Singh & Chitra Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Ganesh Deva
>
>
> The problem is, *there is no such album Vaishnodevi".    It has ignored 
> the actual album that was located for all of those tracks from Jagjit 
> Singh.  Only "singleton" mode has this problem.  If I run "beet import" 
> against each single mp3 file at a time, it doesn't go into singleton mode, 
> and it works great.    For example:
>
> [classic@zotac ~]$ .venv/bin/beet import test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03\ 
> 03\ TUM\ MERI\ LAKHO\ RAJ\ ARI-\ SU.mp3 
>
> /home/classic/test_music/Aarti/Vaishnodevi/03 03 TUM MERI LAKHO RAJ ARI- 
> SU.mp3 (1 items)
> Finding tags for album "Aarti - Vaishnodevi".
> Candidates:
> 1. Jagjit Singh - Kare Krishna A Live Concert (26.0%) (missing tracks, 
> artist, album, ...)
>
> ...
>
> now it found it.  beet list now shows:
>
> Jagjit Singh - Kare Krishna A Live Concert - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hey Gobind Hey Gopal
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Deenan Dukh Haran Dev
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Sabseoonchi Prem Sagai
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Radha Madhav
> Jagjit Singh - Vaishnodevi - Murli Manohar Gopala
> Jagjit Singh & Chitra Singh - Vaishnodevi - Jai Ganesh Deva
>
>
> Now we have that same track, "Tum Mery Rako Laaj Hari", *twice*. One with 
> the right album, one with the wrong one.
>
>
>
>     I don't seem to be able to do any kind of "reimport" on these tracks 
> however, all the documentatinon of "beet import -L" and such doesn't seem 
> to do anything, even if I try pointing it at just one track.
>
> This is something that beets is doing 99% of the work within, and there is 
> one weird behavior right at the end.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, maybe I don’t quite understand—if you already have MBIDs in those 
>> files, beets should use them when you import them as singletons. Does it 
>> not? If not, that’s a bug we should try to reproduce.
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> OK so that's sounding like this is really not supported as a top-level 
>> task.
>>
>> It seems quite simple:
>>
>> 1. figure out the correct artist / album for mp3 file by searching 
>> musicbrainz, discogs, etc. (beets does this)
>>
>> 2. tag the mp3 file with that artist / album that musicbrainz lists for 
>> the track, erasing anything currently there (beets will not do this unless 
>> I manually edit each by hand and re-type the name that it already has right 
>> there)
>>
>> 3. place in the correct directory
>>
>> Basically beets won't allow me to do this without manually editing the 
>> id3 tags, even though beets has already made me go through every track 
>> individually and look up the musicbrainz id for each.  It's literally 
>> throwing away the information it's already found and which I want to 
>> keep.    I'm a programmer so there's no reason for me to edit things 
>> individually when the data is there to automate it.
>>
>> Which means I'm back to, "hey why don't I write a script to hit 
>> musicbrainz for all my mp3s and force them to be cataloged correctly" .     
>> I'm looking into the beets plugin process as well but that seems like I 
>> really have to code to the internals of Beets (like maybe flipping 
>> is_album=True in SingletonimportTask, not sure) - not really sure that's 
>> worth it here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> , and if I'm going to get into manual id3 tag editing, Ithen I'd just 
>> write a script myself to hit the musicbrainz API and write the data.  It 
>> refuses to ignore or erase the incorrect album / artist.
>>
>> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 9:25:59 AM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, the `edit` plugin would work, and so would the more CLI-oriented 
>>> `beet modify album=foo`.
>>>
>>> You could also import the with the flags `-ts`, which would turn on 
>>> timid mode—i.e., avoid trusting the current metadata—and then you can enter 
>>> a manual album and artist for the search.
>>>
>>> One final option would be to turn on acoustic fingerprinting with the 
>>> `chroma` plugin, which could do a reasonable job at guessing the original 
>>> metadata.
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:11 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok well I'm basically looking to "de-mixtape" these tracks.  That is, 
>>> just make them as though I just have a handful of songs that need to be 
>>> grouped into partial albums that they came from originally.  So I don't 
>>> need to group them on that "mixtape" id at all.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that if I totally scrubbed these of the fake artist and 
>>> album name, then just imported them as though they were just mixed up, then 
>>> it would do it?   Of course another issue is that half the songs on this 
>>> particular "mixtape" as well as a bunch of others aren't in the musicbrainz 
>>> or discogs database at all but I'll try to deal with that separately.   
>>> Would I try to use "beet edit" or something to scrub them out totally?  the 
>>> "scrub" plugin didn't seem to really do the right thing on the first try 
>>> but hard to tell where beets cares about the directory structure vs. the 
>>> id3 tags.
>>>
>>> thanks for the quick response.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 6:55:56 PM UTC-4, Adrian Sampson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that’s a tricky case. When we originally introduced singletons, 
>>>> many years ago now, the idea was for exactly this case—when you have 
>>>> mixtapes from friends with an assortment of unrelated songs.
>>>>
>>>> Really, the “beets way” would be to leave them as singletons and add an 
>>>> extra flexible attribute that links them together. For example, `beet 
>>>> modify mixtape=cruise2006` or something could mark all the members of a 
>>>> mixtape. Then, you’d use a path rule to group mixtapes together in their 
>>>> own directories.
>>>>
>>>> The only trouble, of course, is that this approach doesn’t preserve 
>>>> order. (Beets needs a “playlists” concept.) But you could consider using 
>>>> the track field, or even another flexible attribute, to define the order.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that helps. Good luck, and please ask more questions!
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there -
>>>>
>>>> I have what I would think is one of the primary use cases for beets 
>>>> however it seems to be unsupported.
>>>>
>>>> Basically I have a bunch of tracks, all underneath a particular artist 
>>>> and album name, where that artist/album is completely made up.  But also, 
>>>> each track with this album is in reality from *totally different albums*.  
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> The use case here is exactly what would happen in what I would think is 
>>>> the common use case of someone has a "mix tape" where every song has been 
>>>> tagged with someone's fake "album" name.  We want to move the tracks all 
>>>> underneath the actual artist/album they'd be from, given that we are 
>>>> generating only "partial" albums that have just a few tracks.
>>>>
>>>> Options I'm working with to deal with this include the "scrub" plugin 
>>>> as well as the "group_album" option.  They are still not removing the fake 
>>>> album name even though a *real* album name is right in the musicbrainz 
>>>> listing.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a small part of the example I'm working with, this is 
>>>> traditional Indian music (from my wife's collection, I don't know anything 
>>>> about this kind of music):
>>>>
>>>> /Aarti/Vaishnodevi/01 01HEY GOVIND HEY GOPAL- NANAK.mp3
>>>> /Aarti/Vaishnodevi/02 02 HARI TUM HARO  JAN KI PEER.mp3
>>>> /Aarti/Vaishnodevi/04 04 DEENAN DUKH HARAN DEV-SURD.mp3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I do "import" for these, beets can't find anything about an album 
>>>> "Aarti - Vaishnodevi" because there is no such thing.  So my only choice 
>>>> is 
>>>> to press T for "as tracks".  Whether or not I do "group albums" first does 
>>>> not affect the result.   Then it looks up each song individually, and 
>>>> slowly enough I can find close enough identifiers:
>>>>
>>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/6f80178a-9fb4-4e5e-8901-59c7fe9563cf
>>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e2f04a67-d8fd-4fea-818e-feb62445c453
>>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/7ab29996-6032-474a-975d-1fca8f20edab
>>>>
>>>> Because I've had no choice but to select "as tracks", these are forced 
>>>> into "singleton" mode, which means, "there's no album", which I don't 
>>>> really understand since of course there's an album for each one.   I've 
>>>> changed my "singleton" format to read "$albumartist/$album/$track $title", 
>>>> rather than "No Album".  However, it leaves the ficticious album name in 
>>>> place (or if I use "scrub", I get a dash), and does not use the 
>>>> information 
>>>> from the musicbrainz listing, and I get:
>>>>
>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Vaishnodevi/01 Hey Gobind Hey Gopal _ Nanak.mp3
>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Vaishnodevi/02 Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki Peer.mp3
>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Vaishnodevi/04 Deenan Dukh Haran Dev _ Surdas.mp3
>>>>
>>>> this is wrong.  Ignoring that musicbrainz' release titles look a little 
>>>> off here, what it should be based on those ids, is:
>>>>
>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Hare Krishna: A Live Concert/01 Hey Gobind Hey Gopal _ 
>>>> Nanak.mp3
>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Kare Krishna A Live Concert/02 Hary Tum Haro Jan Ki 
>>>> Peer.mp3
>>>> /Jagjit Singh/Hare Krishna: A Live Concert/04 Deenan Dukh Haran Dev _ 
>>>> Surdas.mp3
>>>>
>>>> Is there some option for this behavior or is this an unsupported use 
>>>> case ?   (what do people organizing old mix tapes with bad album names do? 
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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