On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:05 PM, [agiel] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   coba mas fajar di jawb,
> gw jg pgn tau nih.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Agast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Saya juga mengalami hal yang sama....kalo gas digentak (misal di gigi
>> 3) larinya agak ngeden...tapi setelah itu memang lari tapi lambat
>> prosesnya...padahal plat kopling belum lama ganti end...saya nanya orang
>> bengkel... katanya kampas gandanya ???...emang si bohay punya kampas ganda
>> ???....jadi bingung nich...
>>
>>
>> 2008/7/15, [agiel] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>   yaaaahhh.....
>>> gw pikir ni di motor kopling sentrifugal,
>>> ga jd nyoba ah.
>>> feeling gw kurang klo ngetes lari2an gitu.
>>> :D
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:52 PM, fajar fajar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>    iya....
>>>> itu kalo di motor kopling manual yah....
>>>> bukan kopling otomatis...
>>>> tadi gw dah nulis lho...
>>>> soalnya kalo di kopling otomatis...
>>>> pasti bisa jalan..
>>>> soalnya yang selip bukan di kopling nya..
>>>> tp di otomatisnya...
>>>> kalo di kopling otomatis buat ngecek..
>>>> pake di gigi 3 lari 60an lah..
>>>> trus langsung digeber..
>>>> kalo mesin teriak tapi kagak secepat larinya/alias kurang sinkron...
>>>> itu tanda2 kampas kopling dah minta ganti...
>>>> trus kalo di gigi 1 dipake pelan..kadang nyendal2...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:49 PM, [agiel] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   o gitu,
>>>>> jadi deteksi awal ausnya kampas kopling, tetep masukin gigi 4 trus coba
>>>>> jalan.
>>>>> gitu yah ?
>>>>>
>>>>> tar coba ah
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM, fajar fajar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>    kalo di gigi 1 harusnya tidak..
>>>>>> itu cuma setelan..
>>>>>> dan mungkin saking bagusnya tu kampas...
>>>>>> jadi ga bisa bener2 bebas..
>>>>>> bisa jadi karena kampas lengket...
>>>>>> bisa juga karena stut penekan koplingnya yang dah kemakan/alias lebih
>>>>>> pendek..
>>>>>> jadi tidak bisa menekan sempurna..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, [agiel] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   ora mudeng jar,
>>>>>>> huehueheuhue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> klo misalnya si kopling itu dah disetel ampe mentok,
>>>>>>> tapi msh bs jalan jg, dengan menahan pedal perseneling, gmn ?
>>>>>>> aus ga ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM, fajar fajar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    kalo itu bukan aus giel..
>>>>>>>> tp karena setel jarak bebasnya terlalu jauh..
>>>>>>>> jadi kopling kurang bebas...
>>>>>>>> kalo gigi 1 kan emang secara teori mesin kuat narik..
>>>>>>>> tapi kalo pake gigi tinggi mesin sebenarnya ga  kuat narik..
>>>>>>>> karena perbandingan gigi rasionya terlalu berat/....
>>>>>>>> tp bisa idup n jalan karena kopling selip..
>>>>>>>> gigi primernya muter kenceng...
>>>>>>>> tp sekundernya (yang ke gigi rasio) muter pelan..
>>>>>>>> kalo kopling bener2 nggingit harusnya primer sama sekunder muter
>>>>>>>> bareng..
>>>>>>>> dan balik ke teori..di gigi besar...perbandingan gigi rasio terlalu
>>>>>>>> berat..
>>>>>>>> kalo primer muter kenceng harusnya sekunder juga..
>>>>>>>> tp kalo kayak gitu di gigi gede harusnya roda muter kenceng..
>>>>>>>> tp tenaga mesin ga kuat...karena bobot yang berat..
>>>>>>>> harusnya mati...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pada paham ga nih..??
>>>>>>>> gw juga bingung kata2 ajaib gw...hahahaha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:22 PM, [agiel] <
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     klo misalnya,
>>>>>>>>> masukin gigi 1, tapi pedal ditahan, alias ngopling,
>>>>>>>>> tapi motornya gerak/jalan perlahan,
>>>>>>>>> itu bs jd tanda2 kampas kopling aus ga ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:57 AM, fajar fajar <
>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    kampas kopling gw dah ganti 2 kali...
>>>>>>>>>> yang perrtama emang karena umur...
>>>>>>>>>> dulu gw seiring main slip kopling..
>>>>>>>>>> gw ganti pake yang dijual lembaran bukan paketan yang mahal
>>>>>>>>>> ...soalnya yang paketan kurang percaya
>>>>>>>>>> dulu per lembar Rp70rebu x 5
>>>>>>>>>> yang kedua kemaren karena kebakar..motor gw olinya abis...
>>>>>>>>>> ini gw ganti yang mur mer...
>>>>>>>>>> pake TDR cuman 120rebu satu set..
>>>>>>>>>> berhubung kemaren2 gw pake per kopling racing yang keras...
>>>>>>>>>> performa cukup menjanjikan..
>>>>>>>>>> cuma tangan pegel..
>>>>>>>>>> akhirnya gw ganti yang orisinil..
>>>>>>>>>> ternyataaa...
>>>>>>>>>> kampas kopling racing tidak bekerja dengan baik dengan ditekan per
>>>>>>>>>> orisinil...
>>>>>>>>>> sekarang masih selip2 mulu....
>>>>>>>>>> masak kopling mnanual tarikannya kayak kopling otomatis...
>>>>>>>>>> ada ngegerungnya...
>>>>>>>>>> masih ada rencana ganti kampas kopling asli...yangh lembaran
>>>>>>>>>> ciri2 kampas kopling dah minta ganti..
>>>>>>>>>> waktu lari 60kpj di gigi 3..
>>>>>>>>>> ditarik gasnya...
>>>>>>>>>> kalo ngegerung n ga lari..
>>>>>>>>>> ada tanda2 minta ganti..
>>>>>>>>>> kalo di motor kopling manual..
>>>>>>>>>> waktu start pake gigi 4 sambil ngelepas kopling pelan2..
>>>>>>>>>> masih bisa jalan..
>>>>>>>>>> itu tanda dah aus..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Alex Setia <
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Canvas kopling belum pernah ya phet…. Berarti awet juga ya
>>>>>>>>>>> canvas koplingnya.. kalo mo diganti kira-kira ciri-cirinya apaan 
>>>>>>>>>>> ya.. apa
>>>>>>>>>>> udah gak ada tarikan… tarikannya berat, or ada yang lain… ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Alex Setia***
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Group Life & Health Underwriting
>>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Ophet
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 15 Juli 2008 9:46
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Bls: [BekaKak] Happy B'Day+Selamat pagi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rante keteng dah ganti mmmm..... 2 kali
>>>>>>>>>>> canvas kopling lom prnah......
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2008/7/15 Alex Setia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<Alex.Setia%40relife.co.id>
>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>> > Termasuk rante keteng, canvas kopling gak phet.. ?
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Alex Setia
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Group Life & Health Underwriting
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > From: [email protected] <bekakak%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <bekakak%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>> > Ophet
>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: 15 Juli 2008 9:41
>>>>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] <bekakak%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: Bls: [BekaKak] Happy B'Day+Selamat pagi
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > bebex penjelajah umurnya mo 6 th nanti dibulan nopember.....
>>>>>>>>>>> > lom byk ganti di mesinnya................Alhamdulillah.......!
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Pada 15 Juli 2008 09:38, piet baskoro <[EMAIL 
>>>>>>>>>>> > PROTECTED]<bash002%40gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> dearest..
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> parah seh ngga cuman motor gue kayak orang pipis ngga
>>>>>>>>>>> keliatan.. tau tau
>>>>>>>>>>> >> netes.. mane kagak bisa diakalin lagee..
>>>>>>>>>>> >> ada yang mau bokul crank case gue ngga?? sapa tau ada yang
>>>>>>>>>>> mau.. hehehe...
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> 2008/7/15 [agiel] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<simplyblack85%40gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ganti crank case ?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> parah ya ?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ngomong2, crank case apaan sih ?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 2008/7/15 fajar fajar <[EMAIL 
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> PROTECTED]<fajar.bumen%40gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> to bash..
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> motor dah jadi tuh...
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> akhirnya ganti crank case juga yah...?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> sayang dah naik harganya...
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> [agiel]
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> 0818-08807388 / 021-94561925
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>  [agiel]
>>>>>>>>> B 6115 KKU
>>>>>>>>> -ordinary black scorpio-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> [agiel]
>>>>>>> B 6115 KKU
>>>>>>> -ordinary black scorpio-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> [agiel]
>>>>> B 6115 KKU
>>>>> -ordinary black scorpio-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> [agiel]
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>>> -ordinary black scorpio-
>>>
>>>
>>
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> [agiel]
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