Jim Lux wrote:
At 12:04 AM 3/16/2006, Daniel Pfenniger wrote:
The shipment of this accelerator card has been delayed many times. Last time I asked was October 2005. Apparently the first shipment has been made this
month for a Japanese supercomputer with 10^4 Opterons.   The cost is not
indicated, but something like above $8000.- per card would put it outside
commodity hardware.  I wouldn't be astonished that more performance can
be obtained in most applications with commodity clustering.

There are probably applications where a dedicated card can blow the doors off a collection of PCs. At some point, the interprocessor communication latency inherent in any sort of cabling between processors would start to dominate.



If Clearspeed would consider mass production with a cost like $100.-$500.- per card the market would be huge, because the card would be competing with
multi-core processors like the IBM-Sony Cell.

You need "really big" volumes to get there. Retail pricing of $200 implies a bill of materials cost down in the sub $20 range. Considering that a run of the mill ASIC spin costs >$1M (for a small number of parts produced), your volume has to be several hundred thousand (or a million) before you even cover the cost of your development.

The video card folks can do this because
a) each successive generation of cards is derived from the past, so the NRE is lower.. most of the card (and IC) is the same
b) they have truly gargantuan volumes
c) they have sales from existing products to provide cash to support the development of version N+1.

{I leave aside the possibility of magic elves, although with some consumer products, I have no idea how they can design, produce, and sell it at the price they do. Making use of relative currency values can also help, but that's in the non-technological magic elf category, as far as I'm concerned.}


The possibly most interesting niche for the Clearspeed cards appears to me accelerating proprietary applications like Matlab, Mathematica and particularly Excel that run on a single PC and that can hardly be reprogrammed by their
users to run on a distributed cluster.


I would say that there is more potential for a clever soul to reprogram the guts of Matlab, etc., to transparently share the work across multiple machines. I think that's in the back of the mind of MS, as they move toward a services environment and .NET


You mean like ISC's Star-P which provides parallel extensions for Matlab? http://www.interactivesupercomputing.com/

I have not used their product, so I can't confirm it works.  I saw
a demo and it appeared that converting Matlab syntax to Star-P is
straightforward.  It falls into the 'mostly' transparent category.

Craig


Jim

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