Maybe that is a good reason to go with something like the Droid X. It will at 
least be more difficult to root with the eFuse. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art Alexion
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:34 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X

For those not familiar with Android and Linux root users, root is the super 
user, the Adminisrator.  When a user manages to get root access on Android, all 
bets from security, company policies, phone carrier policies and the ability to 
do serious harm to the OS are off.  My co-worker just rooted his Android.  As 
an IT professional, that is what I like about my personal Android.  I have 
total control.  As an IT administrator for the equipment of others, this gives 
me nightmares.



On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 12:07 -0400, Moller, Doreen wrote:
is Find my Phone a Droid X feature?

Doreen Moller
Global Mobility Services
908-473-3627
mobility.merck.com<http://mobility.merck.com/>




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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eggan, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:32 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X



On the remote wipe...



This really only pertains to the iPhone - in my haste to deliver an email 
quickly I neglected to expound what I was referring to.  Should an iPhone user 
ever lose their phone, there are a few things that management worries about (I 
had to dig into some past emails to gather data on this...if these issues are 
outdated please let me know!)



Find my Phone can be disabled to prevent us from sending a wipe command

For an iPhone to receive a Remote Wipe - you need to be connected to the 
internet.  Removing the SIM card takes the phone off the grid.







Thank you,

Mark

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Armour
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:25 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X




As far as security goes, I dont see how removing the sim from a blackberry is 
any different.  You simply cannot wipe a phone after it has been unplugged from 
the network.




But what makes Blackberry such a nice corp phone is the combo of remote wipe 
and local wipe after X amount of password attempts.  That way even if the phone 
is unplugged it will wipe if 'brute forced'.



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Josh Armour
MobileOps - Sysadmin
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
(541) 205-4262
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Eggan, Mark 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Well Art...I have been trying to get these phones supported actually at our 
work (local County government).

I can give you the reasons that Management has given us as to why we will not 
support them..

Manpower - we don't have the manpower to learn a new OS (or multiple OS).
Security - Cannot remote wipe these phones if SIM Card is removed PRIOR to your 
organization getting the 'kill command' out to the phone.


Thank you,
Mark
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Subject: [Bes-admins] Droid X


I am starting to get pressure from some top level managers to support
these.  Coincidentally, they were the same managers who 2 years ago
drove the decision to switch from Palm Treos to BB.  Of course, when
they drove the BB decision, they had no idea about the task of deploying
BES, they just think a phone is a phone from an IT perspective.  In the
two years since I have deployed BES and taught myself how to use it, I
think it is one of the best decisions they made for me.  No more running
to desks to fix one phone at a time.

My personal phone is the HTC Evo.  I love the phone.  But I don't want
to support individual phones again.  I just don't have the resources,
and don't want to take a step backwards in efficiency.

Whether you have faced the issue with iPhones or Android, I am looking
for suggestions on how you resisted management pressure to support these
non-enterprise phones.

--
Art Alexion                                      Systems Engineer
Resources for Human Development, Inc.          215-951-0300 x3075
4700 Wissahickon Ave.                                 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Philadelphia, PA 19144                               267-615-3172

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