Gyan,

              The following draft may also be of interest. AT&T ( A.Lingala ) 
has co-authored a draft that addresses unequal load balancing within a data 
center.. This draft intends to optimize the use of links of different size 
within the data center to fully utilize the capacity of the links from the 
leaf’s to the servers..

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-03

Thanks,
              Jim Uttaro

From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.i...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 10:47 AM
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com>; BESS <bess@ietf.org>; UTTARO, JAMES 
<ju1...@att.com>
Subject: Re: [bess] VXLAN EVPN fabric extension to Hypervisor VM

James,

ESI multihoming (load-sharing) works just fine with VxLAN encapsulation (when 
supported), there’s no need for additional (proprietary) mechanisms (at least 
with basic synchronization).

Gyan - the devil is in the details (as always) - I’m looking at multivendor 
EVPN VxLAN ESI designs as we speak, I’m yet to figure out how ESI type 3 (only 
ESI type supported in NX-OS) is going to work with ESI types 0/1 supported in 
Junos and Arista. I’d assume upcoming open source implementations will support 
type 0 (manual) only.

To second James - replacing MLAG with ESI multihoming could be a really big 
deal in terms of simplification and normalization of the fabric (and you could 
finally remove peer-links!).
L2 vs L3 discussion is somewhat orthogonal to that, if your services require 
stretched L2, whether your VTEPs are on a server or switch - you’d still be 
doing L2overL3.

I still wouldn’t dare to deploy multivendor leafs though, but one step at a 
time ;-)

Cheers,
Jeff
On Mar 4, 2020, 10:17 AM -0500, UTTARO, JAMES 
<ju1...@att.com<mailto:ju1...@att.com>>, wrote:

Gyan,

              One of the big advantages of EVPN is the MLAG capability without 
the need for proprietary MLAG solutions. We have been actively testing EV-LAG 
to accomplish this in the WAN for L2 services.. That being said, we use 
EVPN/MPLS where MH ( EV-LAG ) is conveyed via labels.. My understanding is that 
when using EVPN/VXLAN proprietary mechanisms are need to make EV-LAG work.. The 
is no SH label..

Thanks,
              Jim Uttaro

From: BESS <bess-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of 
Gyan Mishra
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 6:26 PM
To: BESS <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>
Subject: [bess] VXLAN EVPN fabric extension to Hypervisor VM


Dear BESS WG

Is anyone aware of any IETF BGP development in the Data Center arena to extend 
BGP VXLAN EVPN to a blade server Hypervisor making the Hypervisor part of the  
vxlan fabric.  This could eliminate use of MLAG on the leaf switches and 
eliminate L2 completely from the vxlan fabric thereby maximizing  stability.

Kind regards,

Gyan
--
Gyan  Mishra
Network Engineering & Technology
Verizon
Silver Spring, MD 20904
Phone: 301 502-1347
Email: gyan.s.mis...@verizon.com<mailto:gyan.s.mis...@verizon.com>


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