Thanks Jorge!!

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8365#page-16

Since VXLAN and NVGRE encapsulations do not include the ESI label,
   other means of performing the split-horizon filtering function must
   be devised for these encapsulations.  The following approach is
   recommended for split-horizon filtering when VXLAN (or NVGRE)
   encapsulation is used.

   Every NVE tracks the IP address(es) associated with the other NVE(s)
   with which it has shared multihomed ESs.  When the NVE receives a
   multi-destination frame from the overlay network, it examines the
   source IP address in the tunnel header (which corresponds to the
   ingress NVE) and filters out the frame on all local interfaces
   connected to ESs that are shared with the ingress NVE.  With this
   approach, it is required that the ingress NVE perform replication
   locally to all directly attached Ethernet segments (regardless of the
   DF election state) for all flooded traffic ingress from the access
   interfaces (i.e., from the hosts).  This approach is referred to as
   "Local Bias", and has the advantage that only a single IP address
   need be used per NVE for split-horizon filtering, as opposed to
   requiring an IP address per Ethernet segment per NVE.


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 11:01 AM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I would also refer to RFC8365, specifically the local-bias explanation for
> multi-homing Split-Horizon, and also the NVE residing in the hypervisor.
>
> That’s usually the reference here.
>
>
>
> My two cents..
>
> Thx
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
> *From: *BESS <[email protected]> on behalf of "UTTARO, JAMES" <
> [email protected]>
> *Date: *Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 4:57 PM
> *To: *Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]>, Gyan Mishra <
> [email protected]>, BESS <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [bess] VXLAN EVPN fabric extension to Hypervisor VM
>
>
>
> *Gyan,*
>
>
>
> *              The following draft may also be of interest. AT&T (
> A.Lingala ) has co-authored a draft that addresses unequal load balancing
> within a data center.. This draft intends to optimize the use of links of
> different size within the data center to fully utilize the capacity of the
> links from the leaf’s to the servers.. *
>
>
>
> *https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-03
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-03> *
>
>
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *              Jim Uttaro*
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2020 10:47 AM
> *To:* Gyan Mishra <[email protected]>; BESS <[email protected]>; UTTARO,
> JAMES <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [bess] VXLAN EVPN fabric extension to Hypervisor VM
>
>
>
> James,
>
>
>
> ESI multihoming (load-sharing) works just fine with VxLAN encapsulation
> (when supported), there’s no need for additional (proprietary) mechanisms
> (at least with basic synchronization).
>
>
>
> Gyan - the devil is in the details (as always) - I’m looking at
> multivendor EVPN VxLAN ESI designs as we speak, I’m yet to figure out how
> ESI type 3 (only ESI type supported in NX-OS) is going to work with ESI
> types 0/1 supported in Junos and Arista. I’d assume upcoming open source
> implementations will support type 0 (manual) only.
>
>
>
> To second James - replacing MLAG with ESI multihoming could be a really
> big deal in terms of simplification and normalization of the fabric (and
> you could finally remove peer-links!).
>
> L2 vs L3 discussion is somewhat orthogonal to that, if your services
> require stretched L2, whether your VTEPs are on a server or switch - you’d
> still be doing L2overL3.
>
>
>
> I still wouldn’t dare to deploy multivendor leafs though, but one step at
> a time ;-)
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
> On Mar 4, 2020, 10:17 AM -0500, UTTARO, JAMES <[email protected]>, wrote:
>
>
> *Gyan,*
>
>
>
> *              One of the big advantages of EVPN is the MLAG capability
> without the need for proprietary MLAG solutions. We have been actively
> testing EV-LAG to accomplish this in the WAN for L2 services.. That being
> said, we use EVPN/MPLS where MH ( EV-LAG ) is conveyed via labels.. My
> understanding is that when using EVPN/VXLAN proprietary mechanisms are need
> to make EV-LAG work.. The is no SH label..*
>
>
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *              Jim Uttaro*
>
>
>
> *From:* BESS <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of* Gyan Mishra
> *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2020 6:26 PM
> *To:* BESS <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [bess] VXLAN EVPN fabric extension to Hypervisor VM
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear BESS WG
>
>
>
> Is anyone aware of any IETF BGP development in the Data Center arena to
> extend BGP VXLAN EVPN to a blade server Hypervisor making the Hypervisor
> part of the  vxlan fabric.  This could eliminate use of MLAG on the leaf
> switches and eliminate L2 completely from the vxlan fabric thereby
> maximizing  stability.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Gyan
>
> --
>
> Gyan  Mishra
>
> Network Engineering & Technology
>
> Verizon
>
> Silver Spring, MD 20904
>
> Phone: 301 502-1347
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
>
>
>
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